For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, WHEN THEY KNEW GOD, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen” (Romans 1:16-25).

“...they did not like to RETAIN GOD in their knowledge...” (Romans 1:28)

There are no atheists. God built into everyone knowledge of His existence. There are only those who believe in God and obey Him and those who believe in God and don't obey Him. Faith simply means obedience, there is no other possible meaning.

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"I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have."
-- Thomas Jefferson

im an athiest, i don't believe in god. faith can also mean trust.

you can read 1,000 scripts from the bible, but if the person you're reading them to doesn't believe a word from the bible all your reading means nothing.

you read need to get your head out of your bible and learn you have nothing to sway people into believeing god exists.

If you cannot prove conclusively that the bible is divine, then you can quote it all you want, but that doesn't make it a persuasive, or even a valid argument. Seeing as how the bible contradicts itself so often, I think it proves that it is not divine, on top of the total lack of evidence/proof that it is divine.

The bible says there is a god. On what authority does the bible say that. It is the word of men. I could write a book saying that I was divine, and it would be every bit as valid as the bible."

"The book of Caltex says's Caltex is all powerful, and controls the universe. Obey him, for he is never wrong. This text is the word of Caltex and is infallible" -Written right now

Does the Book of Caltex have any validity to it? Does it make a good argument that I am a divine? Is it Persuasive? The answer: of course not.

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You guys who claim to be atheists don't want proof, you want an argument. I could offer proof of the writings of Josephus. The problems of thermal dynamics and tons of other things but that does not prove a thing. This is not about reason. To you, for God to truly exist then it must be beyond reason. And that will not happen because you have another reason, another argument, another response to anything that would be said. Faith in God is much more than any of that. You dismiss it as blind obedience, ignorance, naivete, etc. While on a basic level it may be true to some extent. But, practicing faith goes much deeper, much farther than that. Some of you claim it is only used as a last resort. For some, it is. A loved one dying and praying with all faith that God will protect. Or in a life or death situation and recognizing that the only means of escape is that God will save you. Those are situations of faith. Very real and very practical but not what God meant. Faith is to be practiced every moment of every day. Faith that you will get up in the morning. That by the blessing and ability God gave you to get up, go to work, provide for your family, come home safely, and love your family. That God will provide that internal moral compass to practice the Golden Rule. To recognize that the blessings that one has come from God.

Now, here come the ones who lack faith and deny the existence of God. You may dismiss me as some idiot who knows very little about worldly things. That I don't understand. And, in some instances you will be correct. There are things I do not understand. I don't pretend to have all of the answers. I do know where my faith is and that is good enough for me.

...claim to be atheist...Oh crap you got us, not real atheists here,LMFAO.
I AM an atheist in that I deny that there is/are a god(S). Yes, we want proof. Proof that god exists, and there is none. No one alive today has ever seen god and recorded it in a way that can be proven. If a god exists, and wants us to know he/she exists ,then why doesnt s/he show him/it/her self? This argument of yours really does not hold water. And pretending that we atheists don`t exist doesnt mean we are going away.

I was not trying to get you on anything. God has shown Himself in many ways. Some subtle ways that we recognize and others that we do not.

It was not an argument. As I have said before, no one has ever been argued to believing in God. If you truly seek answers then you will find them. No different than the answers you have found in other areas. But, when you truly seek God, not try to prove His mere existence, He will reveal Himself to you in a very real way. Don't ask me how, I do not know.

As for pretending that atheists do not exist, I don't know where that came from. I know you are there. Some of you are short an ass or two but you are there.

Let me get this straight than, i really, really, believe in god but i just don't obey him. damn, you have me all figured out. You know me so well, why do i even bother trying to lie about this anymore.
I dont know where you got that definition of faith, but, for all the years i've been alive, i know of no other meaning than faith meaning believing in something when you have no proof. its is belief WITHOUT proof.
In order to lead, you must first learn how to follow.
I'm not going to lie, i dont generally like this god of yours. but thats only based on that fact that it might exist, not that i believe it to exist. with every fiber of my being i doubt the existance of this god of yours and so help me god, i will not lie down so easily in this dirt while you pretend to know why i am who i am and why i am an atheist. there may be a contradiction in there somewhere, but hell, at least its less than that of your bible.

You people talk of proof, but the only proof that you mr. Claus and mrnumbersman seem to have is circular logic. you use scripture to prove the evidence of your god. but you can't prove something with that sort of logic.
When we all die we will know the truth but at the moment i'm not going to equate the wonders of this universe to the workings of a divine being, especially one in which its own followers dont truly follow.

I'm an atheist because i doubt the existence of your god, and all other gods. Not because i just dont agree with god, because hell, he does have some good points. but this whole divine worship shit, doesnt stick so well with me. neither does all this we supposibly have free will, but in the end we have to accept god or burn in hell for eternity. not so free, are we.
but let me get back to my point. You religious folk seem to enjoy posting scripture passages and make yourself feel bigger than you are, say theres proof out there but us atheists dont want to see it. that fact of the matter is this, we are looking for proof, but not just proof of your god. were looking for the proof of everything out there, how the universe is the way it is, why were here, why the universe is expanding, are we the only ones here, , etc, etc. we doubt your gods existance, like you doubt other gods existance.
but were not blind. you see, the only blind ones here are those which cant see the forest through the trees.

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"For every man there is a purpose he sets up in his life, let yours be the doing of all good deeds." - Qur'an
Give every man your ear, but few thy voice. Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgment.[Hamlet] -Shakespeare, William
Where there is doubt, there is freedom -Latin Proverb

You call this evidence?

Offering proof against something does prove a thing, it proves that we as humans do not know all that which this world is, that we all but small insects only going about our daily tasks and unaware of the larger world around us.
No claims that everything we know of the universe is true 100%, but we dont say that which we do not know is by the divine work of god.
Of course god is beyond reason. your place your faith in something that by all the laws of physics and life itself should not exist. by the very means of this universe, this god of yours does not exist. but than to say he does discreditcs everything else you can say. if god can exist without proof, than why should we offer proof for evolution of the origins of man, why should i offer proof when i say i have an alien locked away in my basement. we offer proof because we should not go about life believing every little thing we are told, without a meaning to our lives. you believe having this faith in your god gives you meaning, a purpose, but your wrong. the only purpose of our live is that which we give ourselves. we shouldnt be going through life never questioning that which were told, never living for today.
You wake up in the morning and thank god, you eat breakfast in the morning and thank god, that promotion at work, that new car, and that paycheck. you thank god for those material things in your life and never thank yourself for the hard work in your life that got you that. You faith gives credit to everything good in your life to god, does that not seem at all a little wrong in your life. Than why not everything bad, why is it your fault when you mess up, when someone else messes up. when you wife leaves you or you get a bad grade in school. why is god not there to take the blame, why does your faith not protect you. Faith is blind ignorance, i do not believe one should be completely surrounded by faith wihtout proof for it is only a road to the end without meaning.

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"For every man there is a purpose he sets up in his life, let yours be the doing of all good deeds." - Qur'an
Give every man your ear, but few thy voice. Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgment.[Hamlet] -Shakespeare, William
Where there is doubt, there is freedom -Latin Proverb

You said and I quote "...claim to be atheists..." this implys that there are a good number of fake atheists out there. True, no one has been argued to believing in god, because once you start arguing on the existence of god)s) it becomes quite evident that there is NO evidence for any gods. BTW, What the hell do you mean short an ass or two? never heard that one before. Care to elaborate??

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"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel."
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A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle. - Vique
If there is a God...I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit..." -George Carlin