Redcake is right in this case, because that’s a mendacious lie that incites hatred and violence towards Jews. Of course, any one can criticize Israel, as long as it is truthful and legitimate, but repeating mendacious lies that are going to elicit hatred and even violence towards Jews isn’t legitimate criticism, it’s rank bigotry, and ignorance is no excuse because the reader who may be influenced into harming a Jew may not know or realize that you are ignorant.

That’s another lie also that is based on ignorance.

Dude Muslims are going to hate us no matter what we do because we are kafir unbelievers. When they hate us they are just being pious and good Muslims and obeying what their Koran dictates that they do. With respect to helping somebody take something that you thought was rightfully yours, you better go back to the drawing board, because you are repeating absurdities that have no basis in fact!

Link please?

Only if you were lying!

Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois JoeBlough, care to up your game a bit? Do you have anything else to field besides calling his argument lies, absurdities, bigotry and ignorance? Throwing a bunch of names at his argument is not a counter-argument. WEB

If it’s not lies then let him prove that they are not lies. I mean if he is going to make assertions that conceivably could possibly induce people to hatred and even violence, the least he ought to be able to do is back up his accusations with facts and prove that they are real and true. I mean if they are not true, then why wouldn’t it be considered bigotry and absurd? As a matter fact, in this case I already know for a fact that the Jews didn’t take land from the Arabs. Further, if he didn’t know any better and thought that he was correct, why wouldn’t that be ignorance? I mean if I’m going to make statements that possibly could incite hatred or violence, I’m going to make sure that I can back them up; otherwise I will keep my mouth shut. Shouldn’t we all?

Originally Posted by redcake Unfortunately, lies, absurdities, bigotry and ignorance are the best way to describe that type of statement.

Originally Posted by Joeblough If it’s not lies then let him prove that they are not lies.

Originally Posted by Joeblough I mean if they are not true, then why wouldn’t it be considered bigotry and absurd?

Wait a minute I didn’t make the assertion in question. He did so it’s up to him to back up his assertions and if he can’t then he should apologize. I don’t have anything against legitimate criticism because lord knows no one is perfect and no country is perfect!

Do you arbitrarily make assertions that could possibly incite hatred and violence towards people without regard to whether or not they are true? I mean if that’s the way the rules are going to be set forth, then in reality anyone could say anything derogatory about anyone without regard to whether it’s true or not. In fact, I could make untruthful statements and pretend that I didn’t know that they were lies when in reality I did know!

What name calling? I said that they were lies and absurd, which is the truth. That’s not name calling, that’s pointing out the truth and, by the way, lies means, untrue and absurd means, ridiculous, and if they weren’t untrue, they wouldn’t be ridiculous. Additionally, what is bigotry if it isn’t a derogatory remark or lies made about specific groups that incite hatred and violence? It’s up to him to defend his assertions not me because I didn’t make any and when he does I certainly will point it out if he’s wrong and I will surely apologize if he’s right!

Originally Posted by Joeblough Wait a minute I didn’t make the assertion in question.

Originally Posted by Joeblough Do you arbitrarily make assertions that could possibly incite hatred and violence towards people without regard to whether or not they are true?

Originally Posted by Joeblough I mean if that’s the way the rules are going to be set forth, then in reality anyone could say anything derogatory about anyone without regard to whether it’s true or not. In fact, I could make untruthful statements and pretend that I didn’t know that they were lies when in reality I did know!

Originally Posted by redcake He went far beyond saying Israel took land from Palestinians and made derogatory comments which aren't acceptable as a form of opinion. Since when did the right to an opinion absolve one from bigotry when birthed from ignorance?

Originally Posted by anas egypt wo wo wo , calm down man, you accuse rodog of lying, dude, you need to look at yourself before you look at others man!!! Now that comment up there is the biggest bullshit i've ever heard man....