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W.E.B dubois,my question was not personaly to you it was more rethorical. Just because some have nukes and some dont,it doesnt give right to anyone taking 15% of internanionally recognized territory (Serbia), and on the other hand not to even condemned reppresion (if there is) in Tibet.
Your reply is dishonest because you consistently ignore part of my argument while arguing against it. I've said on this thread a couple of times that 90% of the Kosovars want independence and the majority in Tibet don't want independence. If you want to talk about rights then you should at least try to address how I've refuted the central right which is being used as the foundation of the Kosovo-Tibet false analogy.

Secondly, you fail to even call what is going on in Tibet as repression, so you can't criticize the US for not denouncing China on Tibet, when you don't do that yourself.
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Your reply is dishonest because you consistently ignore part of my argument while arguing against it. I've said on this thread a couple of times that 90% of the Kosovars want independence and the majority in Tibet don't want independence. If you want to talk about rights then you should at least try to address how I've refuted the central right which is being used as the foundation of the Kosovo-Tibet false analogy.

Secondly, you fail to even call what is going on in Tibet as repression, so you can't criticize the US for not denouncing China on Tibet, when you don't do that yourself.
You know how is going things in Tibet? Now when US cannot bomb country that abbuse human rights (as Serbia did),it is "wrong" to make even comparation betwen those two places of abusement. I am opinion that US as strongest Power should have major responsability to condemned violence and support Tibetan fight for freedom.
I dont think that majority of Tibet doesnt want to be independet. There is around 5.000.000 Tibetans and 2.500.000. non-tibetian. Lets just say that majority dont have the right to express will wheter to be independent or not.
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You definately didn't see it if you still say "serbians are the murderors!"

US And German Influence/ Croatian Genocide Of Krajina Serbs

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Decebalus,

You have to stop putting the same video in every single post you make. That's just propaganda and it's very low quality. I'm not going to debate your constant doing that. Either you see it or you don't. I'm just going to ban you if you keep doing it.


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Forget it, don't bother. You're banned. This is not a discussion. Other people talk, you post the same video again and again. There's no potential for discussion or debate with you.
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This is going to far as some of you take massive attack on one community or entity. It is right to speak your mind, but to be blind on some other crimes it is tendencional.
Wow, you really want to sneak that personal attack in so badly that you had to make up a new word "tendencional"? What exactly is this new word in the English language supposed to mean?

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I would prefer some objective dsscusion insted of attacking one nation.You should be at least polite saying "Those were criminals from Serbian entity,not all Serbs".
Is your military "criminal"? Is your government "criminal?" Are all the thousands of volunteers who joined the Serbian militias and bandits "criminal?" Are the people who walked the streets with Ratko Mladic in broad day light "criminal?" That's an awful lot of criminals.
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Wow, you really want to sneak that personal attack in so badly that you had to make up a new word "tendencional"? What exactly is this new word in the English language supposed to mean?

means malicious

Is your military "criminal"? Is your government "criminal?" Are all the thousands of volunteers who joined the Serbian militias and bandits "criminal?" Are the people who walked the streets with Ratko Mladic in broad day light "criminal?" That's an awful lot of criminals.
Germans after ww2 would have to say something on this remark...
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I dont think that majority of Tibet doesnt want to be independet. There is around 5.000.000 Tibetans and 2.500.000. non-tibetian. Lets just say that majority dont have the right to express will wheter to be independent or not.
The Tibetans are outnumbered by the Chinese in Tibet. The Tibetans cannot get a majority vote for independence. Tibet can only get half the proportion of independence votes that Kosovo had.

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The Tibetan Government in Exile estimates that the Chinese in Tibet that is, all the three region of Tibet, U-Tsang, Kham and Amdo, now outnumber the six million Tibetans.
The central principle of the Kosovo-Tibet analogy is disproven and thus the analogy is invalid.
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Germans after ww2 would have to say something on this remark...
Good for them. Whatever Germans might say about this remark does not disprove what I said. If you cannot show that what I said is wrong, then it seems that I'm right. Too many people committing atrocities, to label the perpetrators as merely "some criminals" or a "criminal section."
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