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Panamaniac · 04-15-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

Your posts on this thread have been nothing but trolling. That is not "the spirit of this forum." That is the opposite of its spirit. Your characterization of my question is a lie.

You characterized my detailed answer as "ridiculous" when a simple "no" would have sufficed. Given that the spirit of any forum is to invite spirited debate, monosyllabistic answers constitutes sabotage. To say that my take on your question is a lie without stating your motivation for asking, compromises your own credebility. If my posts on this thread are trolling, your definition of a troll is anyone who supports Hillary Clinton.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 04-15-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Panamaniac

You characterized my detailed answer as "ridiculous" when a simple "no" would have sufficed. Given that the spirit of any forum is to invite spirited debate, monosyllabistic answers constitutes sabotage. To say that my take on your question is a lie without stating your motivation for asking, compromises your own credebility. If my posts on this thread are trolling, your definition of a troll is anyone who supports Hillary Clinton.

Your rhetoric is as exaggerated as Hillary's sniper fire remark. There was no debate in the question I asked you. You merely chose to lie and make paranoid comments about how you thought my request for information was an attack. You make further lies in telling me what I consider to be a troll.

Lastly, do not tell me further lies about what you think my credibility is. That violates the forum rules "discuss the issue, not your opponent." You are warned.

WEB

Shiva_TD · 05-09-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

You can believe what you will. Your comments are false. As I've mentioned before, due to your saying that the US is terrorist, I will not discuss politics with you either. Your views do not deserve recognition.

I challenge you to find a single statement of mine where I called the United States a terrorist nation.

Yes, I have provided examples of where the US has historically supported organizations that engaged in terrorist activities (e.g. the Contras). I even asked what criteria you would use to define a terrorist nation but you refused to answer. I can only hazard the guess that you are afraid that if you define what a terrorist state is that the United States would fall withing that definition. Of course if that were the case then by defining a terrorist nation you, and not I, would be the one indicting the United States as a terrorist nation.

So I would appreciate it if you didn't lie about what I have or have not said. I merely presented the facts and asked the questions.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 05-09-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiva_TD

I challenge you to find a single statement of mine where I called the United States a terrorist nation.

Yes, I have provided examples of where the US has historically supported organizations that engaged in terrorist activities (e.g. the Contras). I even asked what criteria you would use to define a terrorist nation but you refused to answer. I can only hazard the guess that you are afraid that if you define what a terrorist state is that the United States would fall withing that definition. Of course if that were the case then by defining a terrorist nation you, and not I, would be the one indicting the United States as a terrorist nation.

So I would appreciate it if you didn't lie about what I have or have not said. I merely presented the facts and asked the questions.

You sir, are being permanently banned right here and right now. The majority of moderators have agreed to this and it shall be so. We have been patient with you.

You called the US terrorist on this thread: USA - Terroristic and Tyrannical?

Your changing of your wording from terrorist to "terroristic" is an attempt to call the US terrorist without taking responsibility for doing so. It's dishonest for you to say that I am lying when I point out how you call the US terrorist.

Secondly, you're saying that I am "afraid" is a personal attack, which is against forum rules.

Lastly, it's even worse that you try to insinuate that I argue that the US is terrorist. YOU have said that the US is terrorist.

THE US IS NOT TERRORIST. THE US IS NOT STATE TERRORIST. That's what I'm saying.

So it's extremely dishonest how you argue that the US is terrorist and try to say that this is what I am arguing. Misrepresenting other people's argument is also against forum rules.

For these infractions, you are permanently banned.

WEB

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 05-13-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoreRepsDems

Well that is your opinion. I would ask any member of congress what they
think about R.Paul ! I can see them calling him odd but never un-patriotic!
Just the fact that he has stood against the entire GOP and made calls to
bring back the law of the constitution makes him more patriotic than most
people in Washington.

And he's blaming the US Foreign policy (REP&DEM made) That made the
terrorist hate us so much that they attached us! He can blame Switzerland
for the terrorist attacking the US! He can't blame it on Russia.....

Now he's not saying that the Terrorist were justified or right for attacking us.
That's what you're making it sound like. If you take all his ideas together and
not that one snippet, you should realize that he is saying that America can
get away form it's dependency on oil, stay away from volatile oil producing
countries and not be intrusive to countries that don't like us. Then he makes
the point that we have no one to blame but our selves for things we could
have avoided.

And at the end of the day ALL AMERICAN PATRIOTS should question the
leader ship of America when the truly feel that that leadership is bad!
(Guess what, America has had bad leader ship for "DECADES" now)

No, it's not my opinion. It's a fact. Ron Paul blames the US public and the government for 9/11. There's no need to ask his fellow congressmen about him. Let's ask the American people about him. The American people say that he is a fool, which is why PAUL HAS NOT WON A SINGLE STATE PRIMARY OR CAUCUS OR EVEN COME CLOSE.

Americans do not like to be called terrorists.

NoMoreRepsDems · 05-13-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

No, it's not my opinion. It's a fact. Ron Paul blames the US public and the government for 9/11. There's no need to ask his fellow congressmen about him. Let's ask the American people about him. The American people say that he is a fool, which is why PAUL HAS NOT WON A SINGLE STATE PRIMARY OR CAUCUS OR EVEN COME CLOSE.

Americans do not like to be called terrorists.

Are you lying or making stuff up as you go along?
When did Paul ever say "Americans were Terrorist"?????

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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois

Americans do not like to be called terrorists.

"YOU" Are implying that that is what Paul said! He did not say that so YOU
are lying!

You are hinging your whole argument on Giuliani's statements that He said
Ron Paul Said! Which Paul did not say!!
After you get pass the knee jerk responce of "911", you should listen to what
Paul said in it's entirety!!

Martin: Paul's 9/11 explanation deserves to be debated - CNN.com

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 05-13-2008, 05:20 PM

I'm not lying, you're lying. Ron Paul blames the US for 9/11:

"They attacked us because we're over there." We shouldn't have been "over there" according to Ron Paul, ergo it is our fault that we got attacked on 9/11.

bododie · 05-13-2008, 07:16 PM

I agree. Ron Paul has no place as a candidate for President. He is a moral man who supports the Constitution.

bododie · 05-13-2008, 07:24 PM

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Ron Paul blames the US for 9/11:

Why do you think "they" attacked us? Just because they're nuts?

Do you have any idea how this country has messed in the politics in the Middle East? Do you know WHY Iran dislikes us?
Do you think Americans are always right?

Before you go judging someone for "a statement" that you decided was erroneous, make sure you know that it was erroneous.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 05-13-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bododie

Why do you think "they" attacked us? Just because they're nuts?

Do you have any idea how this country has messed in the politics in the Middle East? Do you know WHY Iran dislikes us?
Do you think Americans are always right?

Before you go judging someone for "a statement" that you decided was erroneous, make sure you know that it was erroneous.

Maybe you should take a position on the issue before criticizing someone else's. My position is that the US is neither terrorist nor state terrorist. Do you agree or disagree with that?