Tom Cruise Banned From Germany!! - Political Forum

SmilaBee · 06-25-2007, 02:41 PM

This is just....weird. I mean, he's a wingnut and all but how dangerous could it be to let him make a movie there?!

Germans Nix Shooting of a Tom Cruise Film Because He Is a Scientologist

By Louis Charbonneau/Reuters
June 25, 2007

Germany has barred the makers of a movie about a plot to kill Adolf Hitler from filming at German military sites because its star Tom Cruise is a Scientologist, the Defence Ministry said on Monday.

Cruise, also one of the film's producers, is a member of the Church of Scientology which the German government does not recognise as a church. Berlin says it masquerades as a religion to make money, a charge Scientology leaders reject.

The U.S. actor has been cast as Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg, leader of the unsuccessful attempt to assassinate the Nazi dictator in July 1944 with a bomb hidden in a briefcase.

Defence Ministry spokesman Harald Kammerbauer said the film makers "will not be allowed to film at German military sites if Count Stauffenberg is played by Tom Cruise, who has publicly professed to being a member of the Scientology cult".

"In general, the Bundeswehr (German military) has a special interest in the serious and authentic portrayal of the events of July 20, 1944 and Stauffenberg's person," Kammerbauer said. Cruise's publicists could not be reached for comment.

Stauffenberg had been deeply opposed to the Nazis' treatment of the Jews and planted a briefcase bomb under a table near Hitler in his "Wolf's Lair" headquarters on July 20, 1944. The bomb went off but only wounded the Fuehrer.

The film, slated for a 2008 release and to be directed by Bryan Singer and co-starring Kenneth Branagh, is called "Valkyrie" after Operation Valkyrie, the plot's codename.

The main site of interest would be the "Bendlerblock" memorial inside the Defence Ministry complex in Berlin. This is where Stauffenberg and his co-conspirators hatched the plot and where he and his closest comrades were executed when it failed.

Kammerbauer said the ministry had not yet received official filming requests from the producers of "Valkyrie".

Slartibartfas · 06-25-2007, 06:51 PM

I would not let a very convinced member of Scientology enter a military base of my country either.

You just have to look at the track of that organisation. And it would be new to me that everyone has to be granted access to military bases nowadays.

The title of this thread is completely misleading. One military base alone is not Germany. Tom Cruise is free to move within Germany like an other American as well. I would suggest to you to make it a bit more appropriately.

emptypepsi · 06-25-2007, 07:10 PM

Though I am a fan of Tom Cruise (Rain Man, A Few Good Men, Collateral, Mission Impossible, War of the Worlds, The Firm, Jerry McGuire...I can go all day with his good movies

), I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to associate with him or Scientology.

SmilaBee · 06-25-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

I would not let a very convinced member of Scientology enter a military base of my country either.

You just have to look at the track of that organisation. And it would be new to me that everyone has to be granted access to military bases nowadays.

The title of this thread is completely misleading. One military base alone is not Germany. Tom Cruise is free to move within Germany like an other American as well. I would suggest to you to make it a bit more appropriately.

It was meant as a joke. Perhaps it lost something in the translation? But honestly, what harm could he do? I personally think Scientologists are freaks but I doubt very much that Tom Cruise is planning on stealing military secrets from the Germans.

Slartibartfas · 06-26-2007, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SmilaBee

It was meant as a joke. Perhaps it lost something in the translation? But honestly, what harm could he do? I personally think Scientologists are freaks but I doubt very much that Tom Cruise is planning on stealing military secrets from the Germans.

Scientology leads a private war against Germany because it dared to refuse granting tax advantages.

Tom Cruise as such might be not dangerous, even though one can not say that for sure at members are involved that much in the church. But have see what the "church" of scientology did already in its history? I doubt no second that it really is dangerous and does not fear a coup etat if it fits in its plans.

I dont see a reason why Germany should be forced to cooperate with movie makers who engage a convinced Scientologist to play one of the most delicate roles of German history in WW2. Its not like they refuse them any rights, I think thats important to mention.

Purple Tang · 07-15-2007, 11:45 PM

How is Mr Cruise doing these days? He seemed to have irritated the Hollywood powers and was not getting great offers like he used to. So he bought his own studio and has a lot of pressure to make a successful film quickly.

Just my take.

I think Cruise is amazing. As far as a persons personal beliefs, I believe in freedom if that person is not causing harm to others.

Causing harm to others is my beef with Bushco.

iTaliAN_ICe · 07-15-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmilaBee

This is just....weird. I mean, he's a wingnut and all but how dangerous could it be to let him make a movie there?!

Germans Nix Shooting of a Tom Cruise Film Because He Is a Scientologist

By Louis Charbonneau/Reuters
June 25, 2007

Germany has barred the makers of a movie about a plot to kill Adolf Hitler from filming at German military sites because its star Tom Cruise is a Scientologist, the Defence Ministry said on Monday.

Cruise, also one of the film's producers, is a member of the Church of Scientology which the German government does not recognise as a church. Berlin says it masquerades as a religion to make money, a charge Scientology leaders reject.

The U.S. actor has been cast as Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg, leader of the unsuccessful attempt to assassinate the Nazi dictator in July 1944 with a bomb hidden in a briefcase.

Defence Ministry spokesman Harald Kammerbauer said the film makers "will not be allowed to film at German military sites if Count Stauffenberg is played by Tom Cruise, who has publicly professed to being a member of the Scientology cult".

"In general, the Bundeswehr (German military) has a special interest in the serious and authentic portrayal of the events of July 20, 1944 and Stauffenberg's person," Kammerbauer said. Cruise's publicists could not be reached for comment.

Stauffenberg had been deeply opposed to the Nazis' treatment of the Jews and planted a briefcase bomb under a table near Hitler in his "Wolf's Lair" headquarters on July 20, 1944. The bomb went off but only wounded the Fuehrer.

The film, slated for a 2008 release and to be directed by Bryan Singer and co-starring Kenneth Branagh, is called "Valkyrie" after Operation Valkyrie, the plot's codename.

The main site of interest would be the "Bendlerblock" memorial inside the Defence Ministry complex in Berlin. This is where Stauffenberg and his co-conspirators hatched the plot and where he and his closest comrades were executed when it failed.

Kammerbauer said the ministry had not yet received official filming requests from the producers of "Valkyrie".

Rofl... Looks like poor Tom jumped on one too many couches.

Voland · 07-16-2007, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

Scientology leads a private war against Germany because it dared to refuse granting tax advantages.

Tom Cruise as such might be not dangerous, even though one can not say that for sure at members are involved that much in the church. But have see what the "church" of scientology did already in its history? I doubt no second that it really is dangerous and does not fear a coup etat if it fits in its plans.

I dont see a reason why Germany should be forced to cooperate with movie makers who engage a convinced Scientologist to play one of the most delicate roles of German history in WW2. Its not like they refuse them any rights, I think thats important to mention.

This article down there sums up the role Scientology played in and against Germany in recent years relatively well.
Scientology has run media ad campaigns in the US in the nineties ( including the New York Times and the Washington Post) accusing Germany of treating Scientologists like its jewish population in the thirties, Scientology founder Hubbard was apparently convinced of a "german conspiracy" against him etc.
All this hasn´t done anything to make the german governements attitude towards Scientology friendly and cooperative, let alone to allow acccess to military bases.
Would the Bush administration do the same for Germans making movies in the US ?

Religion - Tom Cruise and Scientology in Germany | The German Way

Also you need to know that Count Staufenberg who was one of the heads of the conspiracy against Hitler is regarded as something of a national hero in Germany. To see him played by a member of a group which seems to be totalitarian in íts philosophy is again doing nothing to advance the movie plans popularity. But to claim that this would amount to Tom Cruise beeing banned from Germany because of his religion is ridiculous.......

Aegis · 07-16-2007, 08:06 AM

Much ado about nothing. Who cares if Germany snubs Tom Cruise? No one.

He'll just sulk a bit and go off and make Mission Impossible 10.

Satta · 07-16-2007, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Aegis

Much ado about nothing. Who cares if Germany snubs Tom Cruise? No one.

He'll just sulk a bit and go off and make Mission Impossible 10.

LOL, agrees. He's been getting a lot of people upset with his religious views. I'm kind of interested to see how far it will go until people just stop watching his movies because he has gotten so irratating.