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Originally Posted by TokenLiberal
WEB,
Even if you don't trust Hillary, or like her worth a damn, I do not see how you can support a conservative candidate. As an Obama supporter, you have to admit that Hillary's positions are almost identical to Obama's, and the people she will surround herself with will probably be quite similar to those he would've chosen. Even if she only sticks to half these positions (which seems silly to believe to me, but apparently not so much to others), it is still better than the zero or very few we will get with a Republican in office.
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I could support Mickey Mouse over Hillary. Have you been paying attention to her conduct during the past 4 months?
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Originally Posted by TokenLiberal
Put aside the personal vendetta against her, and look at what is best for the nation and for the world. It ain't another conservative in office, that's for sure.
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No sir, you put aside your personal vendetta against Bush, then you can arrogantly tell other people to put aside their "personal vendetta" against others.
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Originally Posted by TokenLiberal
If you support McCain genuinely, that's one thing. But to demonize Hillary in such a way is just uncalled for. You sound wayyy too reactionary when you post stuff like this, man.
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There is no "if." I've made my position on the issues, McCain, Obama, and Hilllary crystal clear, and if you've failed to read them, then that's your problem.
As for reactionary, that sounds like a communist talking point. If you want to call me "reactionary", well ok, but from what point of view? The sickle and hammer?

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Originally Posted by TokenLiberal
I've always found this really disingenuous as well. Yeah, he didn't vote for it, because he wasn't on Congress at the time. It's one thing to stand on the outside and say you're against the war; it's a whollle other deal to say the same when your career is at stake.
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It's disingenuous to make a speech opposed to the war? Please tell me what the cutoff point is for being able to speak honestly in a speech. OK, so by your standard all state senators who make speeches are liars. Who does get to make speeches without automatically being a liar, only federal lawmakers?