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10-16-2007, 12:32 PM
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10-16-2007, 04:52 PM
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alot of people think Gene Roddenberry Got information from star trek from the cult he was involved in. The Council Of Nine thats one site i found on them, basically they worship 9 aliens on a spacecraft orbiting earth, the nine claim responisbility for our creation and say theyve been here for about 33,000 years, theres other sects in the cult who worship the ships computer, they believe its the brains behind everythings. The Nines influence over Roddenberry's work were shown by "Deep Space Nine" ," Seven Of Nine", and he also slipped the cults founders name and a few other key members into plotlines and characters
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Actually, 7 of 9 was a character created after Roddenberry’s death.
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10-17-2007, 11:02 PM
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Actually, 7 of 9 was a character created after Roddenberry’s death.
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i had read that on one of those sites describing the religion, i wasnt sure, possibly it was some sort of tribute to his beliefs though, either way, jeri Ryan 
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10-18-2007, 09:01 AM
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If they stopped by in the past, they will not come back. The earth is like the trash bin of the universe. Would you want to stop by a place where babies are left in dumpsters or someone is killed for wearing the wrong color? After travelling millions of miles this would be the last place I would want to visit.
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10-18-2007, 10:34 AM
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Have we been visited?
Consider this: If we traveled to another planet, we would likely find that the atmosphere there would not support human life. Thus it is likely that if visitors from another planet came here they would find that they could not live here as well.
Given that, an alien entity might "create" a human/alien hybrid through genetic engineering that could survive in Earth's atmosphere.
Consider the differences between humans and other primates. Humans cannot create Vitamin C internally, while all other primates can. Humans have a subcutaneous layer of fat (like Marine animals), that primates do not have. Unlike all other Earth animals humans can only exist in a naked condition in a very narrow range of temperatures. It would seem that humans then did not naturally evolve on this planet because we seem to be so poorly adapted to it.
All this leads to the conclusion that it is possible that we have been visited.
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10-18-2007, 11:32 AM
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Consider this: If we traveled to another planet, we would likely find that the atmosphere there would not support human life. Thus it is likely that if visitors from another planet came here they would find that they could not live here as well.
Given that, an alien entity might "create" a human/alien hybrid through genetic engineering that could survive in Earth's atmosphere.
Consider the differences between humans and other primates. Humans cannot create Vitamin C internally, while all other primates can. Humans have a subcutaneous layer of fat (like Marine animals), that primates do not have. Unlike all other Earth animals humans can only exist in a naked condition in a very narrow range of temperatures. It would seem that humans then did not naturally evolve on this planet because we seem to be so poorly adapted to it.
All this leads to the conclusion that it is possible that we have been visited.
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First off, what would be the point of creating a hybrid species and leaving it unaware of it's past? Second, in our "naked form," we can survive in the East African Countries (where they believe that we evolved from), We put on clothes so we could travel to other, less hospitible climates.
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10-18-2007, 12:15 PM
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If they stopped by in the past, they will not come back. The earth is like the trash bin of the universe. Would you want to stop by a place where babies are left in dumpsters or someone is killed for wearing the wrong color? After travelling millions of miles this would be the last place I would want to visit.
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You have to come to Scotland, Chuq. It will renew your faith
Btw Bonnybridge in Scotland is the UFO capital of the world. It has more sightings of UFOs than any other location. These have been reported by normally reliable people, police, firemen, military etc.
One link is UFO Area: Bonnybridge - the landing strip for flying saucers
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"...For those truly in the know...there is one place for unprecedented levels of UFO activity . . . Bonnybridge, near Falkirk.
Bonnybridge has, since 1992, been the site of numerous UFO sightings and has been described as the world’s number one UFO hotspot. The sleepy town of 6,870 souls (2001 census) lies at the heart of an area known to UFO enthusiasts as the “Falkirk triangle”, which stretches between Stirling, Fife and the outskirts of Edinburgh. It has around three hundred reported UFO sightings annually."
UFO Sightings Bonnybridge Scotland UK - Scotland and Space Feature
Scotland is pretty rainy and covered in lochs, seawater etc and in winter ice and snow. Colours are very sharp. There are beautiful sunsets and in summer the sun hardly goes down at all at night because any light reflects and bounces around off the water. When there's snow on the hills across the river we see some strange light changes in the sky. I think unusual light reflections cause sightings. A minor version of the Northern Lights perhaps.
That or the Loch Ness monster is an alien. She hasn't been sighted much in recent years although I note a couple of new videos have appeared this year. Ah yes, I've seen it many times before...summer brings them out...
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10-18-2007, 12:27 PM
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You have to come to Scotland, Chuq. It will renew your faith
Btw Bonnybridge in Scotland is the UFO capital of the world. It has more sightings of UFOs than any other location. These have been reported by normally reliable people, police, firemen, military etc...
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Scotland is also the capital of the Loch Ness Monster,
which has been reported by the locals but undetected
by science for over 1000 years now.
And Scotland is also the capital of whiskey, the locals
having found beer and wine to be too weak to satisfy them.
I think the whiskey provides the simplest explanation
for the UFO-Lake Monster syndrome.
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10-18-2007, 12:48 PM
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Scotland is also the capital of the Loch Ness Monster,
which has been reported by the locals but undetected
by science for over 1000 years now.
And Scotland is also the capital of whiskey, the locals
having found beer and wine to be too weak to satisfy them.
I think the whiskey provides the simplest explanation
for the UFO-Lake Monster syndrome.
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Is that a racist comment, implying Scots are overfond of their hooch? Always a pleasure to hear your comments, as usual  but most reports are made and "recorded" by non-locals US nonViking.
Living by a river and having seen various unexpected creatures here, for example whales, I'm sure it's possible a large creature genuinely has been sighted in the loch by some.
Loch Ness is part of the fault line which runs across Scotland and is supposedly connected by underwater caves to the sea. If that is accurate, any creature could find a way in there by accident and exit the same way with luck. The loch is miles long, so deep it's depth cannot be measured and the water is "peaty", a brown colour, so you can't see past the length of your arm.
I am not saying, mind, that some of the sightings haven't been whisky induced...but many of us only take a wee dram at the bells...New Year's Eve to you.
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10-18-2007, 12:55 PM
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Is that a racist comment, implying Scots are overfond of their hooch? Always a pleasure to hear your comments, as usual  but most reports are made and "recorded" by non-locals US nonViking.
Living by a river and having seen various unexpected creatures here, for example whales, I'm sure it's possible a large creature genuinely has been sighted in the loch by some.
Loch Ness is part of the fault line which runs across Scotland and is supposedly connected by underwater caves to the sea. If that is accurate, any creature could find a way in there by accident and exit the same way with luck. The loch is miles long, so deep it's depth cannot be measured and the water is "peaty", a brown colour, so you can't see past the length of your arm.
I am not saying, mind, that some of the sightings haven't been whisky induced...but many of us only take a wee dram at the bells...New Year's Eve to you.
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Don't take too much into the whiskey comment, North and South Carolina are the Moonshine capitals of the world. 
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