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Old 07-26-2007, 10:35 AM
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Smith&Wesson illegally copied Turkish Rifle

Smith Wesson is intent on producing hunting rifles. Apparently they obtained some Turkish rifles from Ata Rifle Co. and demonstrated them in a fair in the U.S.A. only to be spotted by Ata engineers who happened to attend that fair - even the serial number of the rifles were that of ATA! Ata lawyers sent a notice to Smith&Wesson, warning that they will take legal action should Smith Wesson continue stealing Turkish products.

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Old 07-26-2007, 12:33 PM
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That is pretty shitty. This should be a big blemish on their reputation. Even if they quit doing it and do not get sued, they should take a hit as far as their rep as a world class gunsmith.
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Smith Wesson is intent on producing hunting rifles. Apparently they obtained some Turkish rifles from Ata Rifle Co. and demonstrated them in a fair in the U.S.A. only to be spotted by Ata engineers who happened to attend that fair - even the serial number of the rifles were that of ATA! Ata lawyers sent a notice to Smith&Wesson, warning that they will take legal action should Smith Wesson continue stealing Turkish products.

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I didn't see any evidence that ATA produced rifles. THe website only showed shotguns.

Also, do you have a reference to this?
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Source is in Turkish, I made a quick translation :
ZAMAN GAZETESİ [İnternetin İlk Türk Gazetesi] *-*Smith&Wesson bizim tüfeği taklit etmiş
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:01 PM
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That is pretty shitty. This should be a big blemish on their reputation. Even if they quit doing it and do not get sued, they should take a hit as far as their rep as a world class gunsmith.
Meh, I don't think it will affect them too much at all. Doesn't make me want one of these bad-asses any less.

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Old 07-26-2007, 11:05 PM
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Meh, I don't think it will affect them too much at all. Doesn't make me want one of these bad-asses any less.

Make you feel like dirty Harry, eh!

I like guns, but I wouldn't even know what to do with a revolver that big. Maybe go wild boar hunting, but I don't hunt.
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I would like one of these though.

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Make you feel like dirty Harry, eh!

I like guns, but I wouldn't even know what to do with a revolver that big. Maybe go wild boar hunting, but I don't hunt.
Heh. I might not know what to do either. I'm not one to do much hunting, but I'd go if I got to use one of those.

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I would like one of these though.

Sweet. That shoots the .50 BMG doesn't it? That thing's huge.
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good stuff, M-107 Anti-Material rifle, uses the ammo on the left side, others .408 and .338 ;

This is Steyr IWS 2000 anti-material, .50 caliber

And its ammo comparing with 7,62 standart Nato ammo.



But I like this one :
CheyTac Intervention .408 caliber M200
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Holy shit. That last one is bad ass.
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