which country is the biggest threat to world peace - Page 16 - Political Forum

Caltex · 03-29-2008, 11:37 PM

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Wikepedia - Anti-Semitism:
Antisemitism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Antisemitism (alternatively spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism, also known as judeophobia) is prejudice and hostility toward Jews as a religious, racial, or ethnic group. While the term's etymology indicates that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, since its creation it has been used exclusively to refer to hostility towards Jews.

Arabs hate Jews almost instinctively...... the fact that they haven't mass-murdered us yet like the nazis, doesn't mean they wouldn't if they could. (That's why, BTW Iran mustn't get nukes!)
Arabs are anti-Semitic by definition.

Arabs are a Semitic people themselves, and thus cannot be anti-semitic by definition. They're probably a whole lot more semitic than most Israeli's, who have much European admixture.

Ronnie · 03-29-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Caltex

Arabs are a Semitic people themselves, and thus cannot be anti-semitic by definition. They're probably a whole lot more semitic than most Israeli's, who have much European admixture.

Well, it's at the tip of my tongue to say - "Well, maybe deep down even they know they can't be trusted and maybe they thus hate themselves = anti-Semitic by definition", but I won't hehehe

I kid I kid!

=TheAmir= · 03-30-2008, 03:57 AM

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Comparing us to the nazis takes any basic respect I have for every single human being on first encounter, and shoves it right down the drain.

I don't know where you get your information (You didn't even enclose a link to support your so-called "facts"), but over a million Arabs live in Israel and I've personally met some who claim they would NEVER give their blue identity card (Israeli citizenship) to go to any Arab country, to live.

Not only do Arabs have equal rights, here in Israel and enjoy democracy, but there are numerous affirmative action laws, which give Arabs and other minorities many advantages over local Jews.
Israel is a democratic state which gives equal rights to all of its citizens. I can't control what people have to say about Arabs, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out what you're saying is correct and Jews here really DO prefer an unqualified Jew over an overqualified Arab.

The news here are rampant every few years about Arabs who have been working for an employer for years and years, have been taken into his home, have eaten breakfast, lunch and dinner with him, only to get betrayed and get killed with the entire family one day.

What happens is - when an extremist finds out a certain Arab works in Israel, he tries to brain-wash and eventually manages to recruit him. The road to hell is very short from that point. All trust in Palestinians has been lost. I'm not ashamed to say I want them as far away from here as possible. I mean them no harm, none whatsoever. I wish them only good things, as I believe not all of them are bad people, but I'd like to make peace and leave them to build their country with NO help from us and with a huge cement wall to keep us as far apart as possible.

Did you know that Israel has been financing the PA for a long time now?
When an Israeli family fails to pay electricity bill, phone or water bill ETC. the service gets cut off pretty quickly.
Israel has given FREE electricity, water and phone services to the citizens of the PA/Hamas territories. They are unable to pay and these services still work! How absurd is that when the Pals are so hell bent on exterminating us by whatever means comes their way?! How utterly absurd is that when average Israelis who can't pay the bills, get "Suspension of Services" notices in no time at all?!

Arab professors have jobs in Israel, Arab doctors have jobs in Israel. Not so long ago an Arab professor at a Jewish university didn't let a student in the class, because the student was wearing IDF uniform.
Now tell me - whether you agree or not with what that professor did, would that happen in ANY Muslim country?!

NOW READ YOUR HISTORY AND COMPARE THIS TO THE NAZIS!

I haven't even mentioned Arab representatives in the Israeli Knesset!

I'm not going to respond to any of the other things you wrote, as you wrote pages upon pages, and I have things to do.
Honestly, after that dreadful comparison to the nazis = total and misleading propaganda, and after losing every little ounce of respect I may have had for you, I have no real motivation to further speak to you.

Good day.

Israel doesn't give fair treatment to Arabs, the information you told me is propaganda, the extremist brain washing you mentioned is far fetched, people wouldn't kill people for no reason, the Israelis colonised the land and occupied the area, so the people there suffering are fighting back, but not through battles but the same way a guerilla fights, anyways the huge cement wall the Israeli government is building is not to separate Israel from terrorists but to isolate the people you want to get rid of, what right does Israel have to keep people in a prison like that?
The part where you mentioned about the jobs of the Arabs, well the Arabs working there are berated constantly by racist slurs from Israelis, the Palestinians are the natives to the land, even if the Jews suffered from the Holocaust, that doesn't mean they should take up Palestine because they left it in the first place.

LoveDubai · 03-30-2008, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie

Arabs hate Jews, whether it has or doesn't have anything to do with Israel, thus making them anti-Semites!
They are consumed with hatred, and they cannot see beyond it.

Israel is NOT expanding its land. Not one tiny little piece of land has been annexed to Israel - on the contrary - Israel's given land for peace. What do the Arabs give? - False promises and broken agreements.

Israel's given the Palestinian Authority weapons to uphold order, and those weapons were later used against Jews. Where does electricity come from? and water? - They have no money to pay for these things, yet Israel's kept supplying, and what do the Palestinians do? - Talk about crapping onto the hand that feeds you.

Im an arab, and i dont hate Jews!

So you have no point!

But you extreme views, are not for peace for sure!

Ronnie · 03-30-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveDubai

Im an arab, and i dont hate Jews!

So you have no point!

But you extreme views, are not for peace for sure!

What's extreme about stating that weapons that were given to the Pals by Israel, were later used against Israel?
What's extreme about stating that there have been unprovoked daily rocket attacks at innocent people?

Saying "I hate all Arabs" would be extreme, or at least not very nice...... I'm not saying that.

Shiva_TD · 03-30-2008, 09:54 AM

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not about religion. It is about perceived tyranny and oppression.

LoveDubai · 03-30-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie

What's extreme about stating that weapons that were given to the Pals by Israel, were later used against Israel?
What's extreme about stating that there have been unprovoked daily rocket attacks at innocent people?

Saying "I hate all Arabs" would be extreme, or at least not very nice...... I'm not saying that.

What do you think of Fatah and Abbas? can he bring peace to the conflict?

I really hope that we can live in peace together, because Jews are good people, and what the nazis did to them was a disaster

I understand you fear of Hamas, but sadely i dont have the solution to the conflict

Hmm its a sad situation the region is in.

You say that IRAN'S DANGEROUS NUKE GAME is a threat, but what about Israels own program?

Why do Israel have nuclear bombs?

This is not a good sign from Israel? What seem you about that?

Ronnie · 03-30-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveDubai

What do you think of Fatah and Abbas? can he bring peace to the conflict?

I really hope that we can live in peace together, because Jews are good people, and what the nazis did to them was a disaster

I understand you fear of Hamas, but sadely i dont have the solution to the conflict

Hmm its a sad situation the region is in.
You say that IRAN'S DANGEROUS NUKE GAME is a threat, but what about Israels own program?
Why do Israel have nuclear bombs?

This is not a good sign from Israel? What seem you about that?

I worry Hamas would try to take further territories from Abbas, after we have given him more territories and then we would look like stupid people who indirectly made 'peace' with the devil (=Hamas).

I have no solution to this problem as well, I have more questions than answers.

As for Iran - everybody knows that Israel isn't going to use the nukes it has. Israel has allegedly had these bombs for years and hasn't even once threatened to use them, whereas Iran's president can't stop shooting his mouth for one second about how Israel must be destroyed, must be totally annihilated.

Israel cannot allow itself to go through another, modern-day Holocaust, it just cannot allow that! We must do everything in our power to keep it from happening.

svnco · 03-31-2008, 10:36 AM

It's America, I think

DamnYankee · 03-31-2008, 08:09 PM

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It's America, I think

Islamofacism and it's supporters.