IRAQ IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN - Political Forum

CHUQ · 11-21-2006, 05:32 AM

Kissinger presented a bleak vision of Iraq, saying the US government must enter into dialogue with Iraq's regional neighbours including Iran if progress is to be made in the region.
The article is pretty profound and his opinion carries some weight with Americans.

Winning in Iraq impossible: Kissinger-Rest of World-World-NEWS-The Times of India

I first heard this stroy yesterday on the news and had to read the "REST OF THE STORY"

His opinion is something to see and I want to see how it matches up with the Baker report due out fairly soon.

alqalam · 11-21-2006, 06:44 AM

The cost of combat in Iraq has now surpassed $300 billion, according to government estimates. Add in activities in Afghanistan, and the total price of the global war on terror is about $500 billion,

This basically is saying that it will become monetarily infeasible to continue this was for too much longer. There are those who are making a profit and those dying. Soon a choice will have to be made.

Rising price of the war on terror | csmonitor.com

MY point is if Kissinger is right and it can't be won, why continue? Unless the money made off of the war is the major concern.

CHUQ · 11-22-2006, 06:52 AM

Good lord, if even Henry Kissinger now says that military victory in Iraq is impossible, pretty soon George W. Bush really will be left with just Laura and Barney on his side.

Bush is losing support for all sides. Even Henry the K is bowing out.

Eugene Robinson - The Only Real Option: Leave Iraq Now - washingtonpost.com

CHUQ · 11-22-2006, 06:53 AM

SOMEONE READ THIS FUCKING THREAD!!!!!!! Kissinger while a mono-tone, still knows a thing or two about world conflicts.

Tumbleweed · 11-22-2006, 08:29 AM

I read it .

I'm not a big fan of Kissinger.

That said, I didn't read anything that isn't being said by other talking heads. If we believe that we can't win we are doomed to failure.

The only victory I can see is stabilizing the government. A military victory on the battlefield is impossible because there is no clear battlefield.

CHUQ · 11-22-2006, 11:02 AM

I am not a fan of his either, as a matter of fac t, I took a course from him at Georgetown, and the man is so monotone and boring, I was in a coma.

Only reason I posted this was he has some snookered into believing he knows what he is talking about and some will listen to him where they might not listen to others.

CHUQ · 11-23-2006, 04:27 AM

At age 83, Henry Kissinger aims to recapture former glory - or ignominy as it were. Thirty-three years after being honored with the Nobel Peace Prize for bringing peace to Vietnam (he didn't), he is insinuating himself into the row over US Iraq policy. The prospect of seeing Kissingerian principles and methods of realpolitik applied to the mess in the Middle East makes one shudder.

Henry is asserting himself in a spot he might not want to go to.

Asia Times Online :: Middle East News - Iraq: Kissinger's 'decent interval', take two

I believe someone here said this, well in sorts anyway.

francois60 · 11-23-2006, 07:59 PM

He didn't say it was impossible, only that it was impossible within the timeframe Americans are likely to accept.

Our impatience is our greatest weakness, and our enemies know it.

CHUQ · 11-24-2006, 05:32 AM

Henry has always been an opportunist and I believe you can see that in his statements.

CHUQ · 12-01-2006, 06:25 AM

Similarities are drawn between Vietnam and Iraq.

The gruesome lesson from the Korean War and Vietnam show that nothing will be accomplished by sending more troops to Iraq, other than adding to the 2,876 soldiers killed and leaving more dead civilians.

This opinion piece has some very good points that should be considered.

AlterNet: War on Iraq: The Perils of Escalation in Iraq: A Grim History Lesson

Please voice an opinion, this is a good place to say what you think.