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Old 10-11-2006, 06:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Egypt Set To Renew Nuke Program

It woulod seem that the son of the pres is jockeying his position.

http://www.gulfnews.com/region/Egypt/10073798.html
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Energy, weapon--who decides which? THe US--now there is a good one to choose.
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Well firstly, let's be clear that we are talking about a nuclear ENERGY program here, and not a nuclear weapons one.

Secondly, I've heard it mentioned by some analysts that Sunni nations (of which almost all Muslim nations are, besides Iran) do not like the idea of only the Iranian Shi'ite nation having nukes. So therefore, they might look very favorably on having some nuclear weapons. At the very least they probably want the chance to be able to research nuclear weapons, if they deem it necessary. A nuclear energy program would give them that option.

Mubarak is in power only because he has bigger guns than his opposition. With Islamic fundamentalism growing daily, he position becomes more precarious and if a nuke energy program is in place when he falls and the Islamists gain power, we will have yet another nuke conflict to deal with.
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I have no prob with trying to stop the spread of nuke weapons, personally, I think ALL nuke should be shitcanned. My prob is that if you are a "friend" then you can explore nuke energy, which if the regime falls could become a weapon. Scrap all nuke research, weaponry, energy--just eliminate it and breath free.

Of course, this is a pipedream, will not happen! In the US, commericals are run about nuke telling people that it is a clean and safe alternative. What of the spent rods? Can they be used in some form of weapon? I believe armour piercing rounds are tipped with some sort of by-product.

I can gon and on, but crap--Internationally scrap it!
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Are you advocating the complete abolition of nuclear energy? I think that is a bit extreme. I think that I could reasonably disagree with you, if you say that you are in favor of total destruction of all nuclear weapons.

WRT the stuff used in bullets, you are talking about depleted uranium which is used in some bullets (the 30mm gatling gun in the A-10 Warthog is one example). I've heard much ado about the evils of this from the left, but nothing by the way of scientific proof that this gives off significant evels of radiation.
Why do we need Nuke energy? What is the best way to destroy a nuke weapon? Nuke energy is an alt energy and it is somehow more attractive to politicians than a rfenewable resource. Why?

THe bullets we speak of has been reported to cause some form of illness. I will see if I can find the article I read about a year ago and send you the link.
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Damn it is early--forgot my main point--sorry. If there was no nuke energy or weapons, then there would be no news for FOX and CNNand et al.....And what would the Bush Admin have to talk about? Maybe some issues that Americans need to hear about.
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Mubarak to Russia to schmooze.

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Nuclear energy is cheaper than renewable energy. south Africa has anoucned that in the next 20 years we are building 5 new Nuclear plants. Our coal recources are running very low (we also make petrol form it) and oil is bloody expensive for a developing country like our own.

I too (I've said it in another thread) am against anyone having nuclear weapons, and i understand your point on the ability to change the rods into weapons, but what is poorer nations to do?
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We already have working nuclear plants, and store them very very deep underground in the Karoo desert (south Africa is strange, we have everything, tropical forests, lush grasslands, and two deserts).

It is very expensive to build, but since we are one of the worlds greatest supliers of uranium and other things needed, and we have the techonoly and know how to build it ourselves, it works out cheaper, in the long run, than importing oil, and we are not dependent on other countries and OPEC (and DON'T get me started on OPEC).

Also Electricity is a big source of income for us, as we sell our electricity to Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Lesotho, Swaziland and Zambia
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We had six working nuclear weapons, but in 1990, president FW de Klerk anounced that we will destroy all our weapons and dismantle all weapon making equipment. This makes us, with two former Soviet States (not sure which ones) the only countries to stop, and destroy their nuclear programme, proving it is possible.

And no, new Nukes is as close as impossible as we can get, as it is in our constitiution (we are a constitiotional Democracy, the const. court is the highest authority in the land), forbids any SA government to make nukes.

Also SA is a huge fighter in the UN for the abolishment of all nukes.


One thing worries me. Britain has decided to build some new stations, and no one blinks an eye, whilst when Egypt (a mderate Muslim state) decides to build one, it is a big issue.

why?
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