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Old 09-18-2007, 06:47 AM
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Racism

Pointing out nobody in particular, i was wondering if we could mark racist remarks are punishable offence on this forum, as they lower the quality of debate and can lead to digression from the original topic.

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According to the rules: "Rule 3: No deliberately inflammatory attacks on race, religion or sexual preference."

This makes sense as this type of things is not condusive to civilized dicussion.

Personally I think it is fine to say things like "Islam has some inherent problems as a religion"

That is a far cry from saying "Islam is a death whorshipping cult of lunatic fanatics" :-)

Some folks don't seem to be able to tell the difference though, hence why there are rules.
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Here is an example of hate speech beyond any shadow of a doubt.

We love America

This did not appear as a resonse to another statement, but was initiated for the purpose of spreading hate.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:31 PM
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Here is an example of hate speech beyond any shadow of a doubt.

We love America

This did not appear as a resonse to another statement, but was initiated for the purpose of spreading hate.
I don't agree with your overall assesment. I personally decided not to edit that thread for the forum's interest. One of the best things about this site is its diversity, which includes (from what I have seen) people who are rabidly for Israel and rabidly against. Now, as I explained on that thread, there are a lot of people in the world who really hate Israel. We here people talking about that all the time, especially the right.

So now that we have encountered someone like that, what is the smartest thing to do? Discard the opportunity to interact with someone like that or take that opportunity to see how that person thinks and what they're like and try to challenge their beliefs?

I thought those things were in the best interests of the forum and thus acted in accord.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:34 PM
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Pointing out nobody in particular, i was wondering if we could mark racist remarks are punishable offence on this forum, as they lower the quality of debate and can lead to digression from the original topic.

Thanks in advance for reading,

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It's really up to the moderators. Decisions concerning the overall tone and flow of the conversations of this forum is in the hands of the moderators. This forum leaves more up to the discretion of moderators than most other forums.

That creates several features:

* The ability to eliminate trolls and to keep discussions civil
* The possibility of abuse of power

The setup of this forum lends itself to having tremendous potential for keeping the quality of discussion high quality and diverse, but also has great potential for abuse. I believe that due to the composition of the forum staff, only the first becomes a reality.


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Old 09-18-2007, 02:39 PM
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One other thing: the mod team on this forum is VERY strong, IMO due to our diversity as well as the strengths of the individual members themselves.


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W.E.B. Du Bois:

And may I ask about the recent "shit eating raghead" remark?

I understand why the board needs conservatives posting articles and comments for balance. But how far is too far if the standard is maintaining quality discussions instead of having them dumbed downward?

And if I were a moderate, secular Muslim (like the ones I have met here in America) trying to participate in the discussions here, wouldn't this be cause to quit?
Sure, it would be a cause to quit, if the remark actually existed. Does the remark exist?
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The comment exists:

Iran blasts Israeli 'violation of Syrian airspace'

First post. Superdude.
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OK, that comment has been removed. My log indicates that the person who made that remark was talked to and penalized for making that remark.
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One other thing: the mod team on this forum is VERY strong, IMO due to our diversity as well as the strengths of the individual members themselves.


Liberal/Anarchist: CHUQ
Liberal: Izzibeth
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Center-left: WEB
Libertarian: emptypepsi
Independent: neorealist
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