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10-22-2007, 11:05 PM
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Bill O'Reilly is a piece of crap
I was flipping around the teley for something entertaining. Didn't see anything good on my favorite channels so I decided to see what O'Reilly was up to. His lead story is a medal being awarded to a US soldier in Afghanistan. I thought that was ok. I was expecting a rant against the left and was a bit annoyed to hear something serious being mentioned.
In any case, no sooner had he started to mention the story then he used the story to attack the media. He said that his reporting on this soldier was in contrast to the media who are effectively America-haters. Bill O'Reilly is a coward and is not a patriot. Anyone who persistently uses the heroism and sacrifice of brave men to advance their political agenda is nothing but a coward and that is what O'Reilly is.
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10-23-2007, 01:25 PM
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Perhaps some of our conservative posters can answer this, but has Bill O' Reilly ever done a show regarding the lack of up-armored Humvees or ballistic vests for the soldiers? Has he at all denigrated the people behind the lack of post-war planning in Iraq, the lack of planning that has cost soldiers lives? Has he ever done a show exposing the corruption of taxpayer dollars that has occured in Iraq since the invasion? These are genuine questions that go beyond political rhetoric and party stance - people who support both sides of the aisle should be attacking these issues with equal vigor.
Perhaps Bill O' Reilly has indeed done shows on these issues - I hope I'm wrong, but I suspect he hasn't.
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10-23-2007, 05:30 PM
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has Bill O' Reilly ever done a show regarding the lack of up-armored Humvees or ballistic vests for the soldiers?
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Not sure. Seems like he has, but I can't specifically remember, so I don't want to say one way or the other.
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Has he at all denigrated the people behind the lack of post-war planning in Iraq, the lack of planning that has cost soldiers lives?
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Definitely. He has said numerous times that the overall planning of the war has been sub par (to put it mildly) and has also said that he believes it is time to get out since we are not seeing the Iraqi government taking control of themselves.
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Has he ever done a show exposing the corruption of taxpayer dollars that has occured in Iraq since the invasion?
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I haven't heard him really go into specifics, but he has commented on the outrageous amount of our money the government is spending over there.
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10-23-2007, 08:04 PM
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Well, then I will say that it is good to know he's actually made a bit of an about-face with regards to the war and what not. I remember before the invasion he was one of the biggest cheerleaders and bought into the bullshit that Wolfowitz, Pearle, and the rest of the Neocon gang were espousing at the time - but so did a lot of America.
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10-24-2007, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
I was flipping around the teley for something entertaining. Didn't see anything good on my favorite channels so I decided to see what O'Reilly was up to. His lead story is a medal being awarded to a US soldier in Afghanistan. I thought that was ok. I was expecting a rant against the left and was a bit annoyed to hear something serious being mentioned.
In any case, no sooner had he started to mention the story then he used the story to attack the media. He said that his reporting on this soldier was in contrast to the media who are effectively America-haters. Bill O'Reilly is a coward and is not a patriot. Anyone who persistently uses the heroism and sacrifice of brave men to advance their political agenda is nothing but a coward and that is what O'Reilly is.
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O'Reilly was talking about how the major media wouldn't put it on primetime. I take this is the Navy SEAL who won the purple heart? The major media was there live, but wouldn't show it during primetime. That is what O'Reilly was mad about. The major outlets said they didn't have time to do it in primetime. But primetime is 1 hour long was O Reilly's answer to that and that they could fit it in inside of that hour.
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10-24-2007, 06:19 PM
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Bill Oreilly is a direct instrument of Rupert Murdoch's unspoken unspecified plausibly deniable network of media professionals who take mixed approaches to reinforcing the testimony given by the white house press corp. Bush/PressCorp/Rush/Fox are allowed to stray form the White House platform only to create 1 or 2 symbolic and distractionary "look I don't always agree with Bush" incidents of thier original choice. That is when you'll hear the "Fair and balanced" line repeated ad nausium
Hasn't anyone wondered why all Republicans use the same language? They may not agree on everything but the language is identical. Bush/PC/Fox-Rush
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10-24-2007, 08:16 PM
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O'Reilly was talking about how the major media wouldn't put it on primetime. I take this is the Navy SEAL who won the purple heart? The major media was there live, but wouldn't show it during primetime. That is what O'Reilly was mad about. The major outlets said they didn't have time to do it in primetime. But primetime is 1 hour long was O Reilly's answer to that and that they could fit it in inside of that hour.
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This appears to be the story in question: The ultimate hero - BostonHerald.com
O'Reilly was just trying to bludgeon the news as usual. He wants conservative news, not news. If the medal is rarely awarded, I could agree that it is worth reporting. O'Reilly goes too far though and he's really just advancing his agenda as usual.
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10-24-2007, 08:17 PM
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Bill Oreilly is a direct instrument of Rupert Murdoch's unspoken unspecified plausibly deniable network of media professionals who take mixed approaches to reinforcing the testimony given by the white house press corp. Bush/PressCorp/Rush/Fox are allowed to stray form the White House platform only to create 1 or 2 symbolic and distractionary "look I don't always agree with Bush" incidents of thier original choice. That is when you'll hear the "Fair and balanced" line repeated ad nausium
Hasn't anyone wondered why all Republicans use the same language? They may not agree on everything but the language is identical. Bush/PC/Fox-Rush
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They only disagree with Bush to say he is not conservative enough.
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11-23-2007, 11:11 PM
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I'm not sure that the majority of the media are american haters, but I would agree that the majority of the media disregard any true american values. Most often when I am flipping channels, I pass throught a load of garbage. This including increasing amounts of sex on tv, innapropriate language and graphic material on channels such as mtv, etc. Thus, I can understand when he disagrees with the media, because it really is detrimental to the progressivness of our country.
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11-23-2007, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
I was flipping around the teley for something entertaining. Didn't see anything good on my favorite channels so I decided to see what O'Reilly was up to. His lead story is a medal being awarded to a US soldier in Afghanistan. I thought that was ok. I was expecting a rant against the left and was a bit annoyed to hear something serious being mentioned.
In any case, no sooner had he started to mention the story then he used the story to attack the media. He said that his reporting on this soldier was in contrast to the media who are effectively America-haters. Bill O'Reilly is a coward and is not a patriot. Anyone who persistently uses the heroism and sacrifice of brave men to advance their political agenda is nothing but a coward and that is what O'Reilly is.
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Before he started his focus on social issues, before the 9/11 attacks, and back when he claimed to be a member of neither party, his show was actually watchable.
In the last 7 or so years his show has turned into a piece of shit, that whines and moans that we no longer live by the morals of the 40's, and bitches about how no other network praises the war in Iraq.
I switched to watching Tucker Carlson about the time I got sick of it. 
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