Apotropoxy

The first quote is a section from the recently passed Senate resolution condemning MoveOn.org for their exercise in free speech.
Now read how the Comedian violates countless members of the Armed Services by referring to those who want to end the Bush Fiasco as "phony soldiers."
Note to Swiftboaters:
The link to MediaMatters has a link on it where you can hear the entire exchange. It's worth listening to the entire thing. And while I realize this fact won't prevent you from dismissing the episode with an Ad Hominem attack on the messenger, I thought I'd let you know that you've been preemptively scuttled.
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Diligent_d

I head about this. What a scumbag.

Ceci

Now the question is what the government is going to do with it?

They'd probably reward him with more drugs to take for his "bad back".

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7of9

Limbaugh is the radio media's venereal disease. His credibility ranks along the sides "I did not sleep with that woman" and "Saddam has WMDs".
He has about as much class as a pile of droppings on Persian silk rug.

Izzibeth

That's a good one. ^_~

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yhwhluver

Why even argue? I listened that day. I read the report on Media Matters and listened to the clip on there. He has even stated over and over and over again that he was talking about people who claimed they were in the military and those that were in the military but have never been in Iraq or Afghanistan but still claimed to see and participate in atrocities in Iraq/Afghanistan. Those are phony soldiers. Now, I know, you're going to say that he was talking about those that don't agree with the war. Where does he say that? Where does he say those that don't agree with him are phony? If you actually listened to his show and did't take things out of context, you would have known that, especially with his record of support for the troops, but I guess that doesn't matter, does it?

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colourislast

I listen to his show just about everyday. Rush did what is called a morning update a couple days before this call about people like Jesse McBeth. Her is the transcript of that.

Here is a Morning Update that we did recently, talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. They have their celebrities and one of them was Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth. Now, he was a "corporal." I say in quotes. Twenty-three years old. What made Jesse MacBeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn't his Purple Heart; it wasn't his being affiliated with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. No. What made Jesse MacBeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage, in their view, off the battlefield, without regard to consequences. He told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq, American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth describes the horrors this way: "We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque."
Now, recently, Jesse MacBeth, poster boy for the anti-war left, had his day in court. And you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs claim and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse MacBeth was in the Army, folks, briefly. Forty-four days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse MacBeth isn't an Army Ranger, never was. He isn't a corporal, never was. He never won the Purple Heart, and he was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen. You probably haven't even heard about this. And, if you have, you haven't heard much about it. This doesn't fit the narrative and the template in the Drive-By Media and the Democrat Party as to who is a genuine war hero. Don't look for any retractions, by the way. Not from the anti-war left, the anti-military Drive-By Media, or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse MacBeth's lies about our troops, because the truth for the left is fiction that serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities because they can't find any that fit the template of the way they see the US military. In other words, for the American anti-war left, the greatest inconvenience they face is the truth.

Now if you want to disagree with his polotics or his opinions, go ahead. Like so many other people on this site, some have taken snippets of a full conversation or thought process and made a debate about those stand alone thoughts. There is context and full thought in the statements about phoney soldiers. It is a real problem and it takes credability away from people trying to make a real debate. Jesse McBeth is a "real" phoney soldier, he was discussed on the show before the conversation referanced by Apotropoxy. Rush may have not used the term before the conversation, but clearlyit had been on his mind.

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