O'Reilly: One Ripe Racist - Political Forum

Apotropoxy · 09-25-2007, 11:07 AM

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"I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's [famous black owned/operated eatery in Harlem]restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship."
"There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

This is one of the clearest subjective confessions I have ever read. O'Reilly has proved to the world once again that he is one ripe racist.
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FRYandBENDER · 09-25-2007, 11:25 AM

I'd be willing to bet that this is taken out of context.

Bradgriff · 09-25-2007, 12:18 PM

I believe the many many statements made by Billy that sound a little racist, can certainly be made more so by being heard out of text. Blah blah blah.

Billy Oreilly,.......One indicator (to me and me only) of the racist tendacies of someone is how mad they got about the Duke Case, if they get yelling mad week after week and it looks genuine, they probably, at least sub consciously, might have negative feelings about black people.

Billy is constantly going after Rap artisits for lyrical content, and in that case I think it's racism in denial. The thing that Billy is always trying to hold back becuse he'll get crucified if it's ever proven, are his obvious racist feelings, and it's obvious to anyone who is NOT a racist and has seen it before in others, the pathology is very recognizable. Now I have advice for anyone who doesn't think Billy is a racist, or at the very least prejudiced against blacks and illegal hispanics, you too may be a biggot in denial, or not.....hell, in reality maybe Billy isn't. But it damn sure looks like he is to me. Also, if any of this made you mad and you feel it's directed at you.....you may be a racist. A true non racist would not be made the least bit irritated by what I've written.

Big Brother · 09-25-2007, 06:10 PM

Sounds like O'Reilly is saying that blacks are capable of being just as boring as white folk. So what ?

Big Bro

iTaliAN_ICe · 09-25-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Brother

Sounds like O'Reilly is saying that blacks are capable of being just as boring as white folk. So what ?

Big Bro

It's much more than that. From what we've seen in that quote, he's acting surprised that a restaurant owned by black people is as good as any other restaurant, and that the restaurant's primarily black clientèle is able to conduct itself as civilly as members of any other race. Sounds pretty racist to me.

Big Brother · 09-25-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by iTaliAN_ICe

It's much more than that. From what we've seen in that quote, he's acting surprised that a restaurant owned by black people is as good as any other restaurant, and that the restaurant's primarily black clientèle is able to conduct itself as civilly as members of any other race. Sounds pretty racist to me.

Maybe. It just does not seem like that big of deal. He IS saying something positive...

{Quote}it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all.{Unquote}

Just doesn't seem that sinister. He may be a little naive about black people in general, but thats all I see.

Big Bro

iTaliAN_ICe · 09-25-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Brother

Maybe. It just does not seem like that big of deal. He IS saying something positive...

{Quote}it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all.{Unquote}

Just doesn't seem that sinister. He may be a little naive about black people in general, but thats all I see.

Big Bro

You could be right. I certainly don't see his racism (if he is racist) as being threatening or important, and I agree that he and his intentions are probably more stupid/misguided than sinister.

FRYandBENDER · 09-26-2007, 08:55 AM

All I'm saying is that O'reilly, even if he was a racists deep down, is too smart to come out and say something that would leave little doubt that he is a racist. Also, I'd be willing to bet that he has more people gunning to make him look bad than most other talk show hosts. That being said, I don't understand why someone would care so much. Lets say for the sake of argument that O'reilly hates all minorities. ........ so what? People act like they found the Holy Grail when they get a sound bite or a 2 line quote that can be taken as a intolerant hate speech. I've heard that sound bite about him talking about white people being out bred and disappearing and that is probably the worst thing I've ever heard him say. Everyone points and says "Ohhh, look O'reilly is worried that white people will be out bred and disappear, what a racist, horrible ass hole." Which to me is funny when you have all of these minorities pushing to preserve their culture. Its ok for minorities to worry about preserving their culture and way of life but not white people? Give me a fucking break.

Then you have the snipit that started this thread. Pretty much unless he said,

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"Yeah, I used to think black people were a bunch of godless monkey's but I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's [famous black owned/operated eatery in Harlem]restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship. I figured they would have been shooting each other smoking crack. But it really wasn't like that"

somewhere in that whole little speech, I don't think you have much to criticize and someone's got too much time on their hands and not enough things to worry about on their own.

Dragon Horse · 09-26-2007, 08:56 AM

You don't get your on television show on a major news network by being stupid and misguied, some of you will attempted to do all sorts of mental gynaminastics to apologize for any nonsense.

His stereotypes were racist.

He basically said he expected a group of blacks to act ignorant.

When he didn't see that he was surprised.

How clear is that. He held a racist belief that blacks can not congregate in large number and act civil. Which is complete and total Bullshit.

It is like an English guy going to Scotland and saying ..."wow I went to a pub and there were not a bunch of heroin addicts and drunks fighting in the pub and in the street it was quite peaceful...surprisingly".

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Lets say for the sake of argument that O'reilly hates all minorities. ........ so what?

Why don't you call up the anti-defamation league and ask the Jews there why they formed it.

I"m going to excuse your ignorance by the fact you have absolutely no clue what it is like to be a minority in any country (a visible minority) let alone a historically oppressed one and how dangerous it is to have closet racist on TV (in front of national/international audiences) spouting off ignorant stereotypes...most Jews know because they know where that can lead...

I think you are at best naive, at worst completely ignorant to the dynamics involved and the history of such "speech".

Somehow I think if you were such a minority, a Jew in Eastern Europe, a black person in America, a Christian in Egypt you would have a fundamentally different view. Try to think from the perspective of someone other than a white male in a country that has historically dominated politically and economically by white males...that would help quite a bit.

FRYandBENDER · 09-26-2007, 09:01 AM

What did the person he was talking to say before he said that. Did this guy make a stereotypical remark about blacks and was Oreilly telling him he was wrong? We're getting a small, small, small part of the conversation and we're supposed to act like it is his fucking life's philosophy?