A relatively recent skit of the Daily Show lampooning Fox News. They show some clear contradictions of views involving Sean Hannity and Bill O'rielly. Not that that is difficult or anything since all you have do is record two episodes back to back to find some since of hypocrisy.


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Haha good stuff. Who does Fox think they're kidding anyway? Does anybody really think they're "fair and balanced" as they say. They clearly exist because somebody wanted to create an alternative to the so-called liberal media bias in other news networks. Why can't they just be open about that? They could call themselves, "The alternative to the liberal media," without sacrificing ratings.

when will you liberals get off the hate fox train

yourside has its puppet news agency too you have no moral highground

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Who said I was a liberal? At any rate you are free to find similar contradictions by media personalities of any other network and chances are they'll be conservative ones. The only liberals I know of with their own show on CNN or MSNBC is Keith Olbermann and Chris Mathew is a former Dem, but no liberal. I've seen the arguments regarding liberal media bias and their as weak as the speculative assumptions their based on, but I'll be free to debate them with you.

riddle me this then, if all the news agencies are conservative (as you infer by the lack of liberals on them ????????? ) then why is fox the point of the conservative bias spear ? why does the far left always talk about them, why do they make movies and have lobyist and small groups pushing against them? Why does a lefty like stewart mock them? why are you making a thread about them? why are the the example usually used in the arguement that i suppose to you is founded that there is a conservative bias in the media?

and BTW if you think there is no liberal bias, and there is a conservative bias are you not somewhat liberal then? I mean you think there is no liberals at all out there which lends me to think your bend is pretty fucking left

and additionally if you see things through that prism , can you not see that there are people who will see it differentley? I mean you think its all conservative , yet any who think its liberal are basing it on weak assumption

wow are a member of Demundergound? how about daily kost? like the nation? but there is no liberal bias in the MSM

wow thats pretty funny thanks man i needed some laughter

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Your argument falls apart from the start. I do not believe that most news agencies are conservatives. What I do believe is that most political pundits are conservative but most of them are on Fox and that is what causes the conservative inbalance. In fact Fox has more media personalities (as opposed to simply state the facts reporters) in general and since all but one is conservative it causes the inbalance

But I don't consider any other station bias except PBS which seems to have a liberal bias although I don't consider all the shows on there bias. MSNBC despite the liberal claims has about the same number of liberals and conservatives or at least used to as I've heard Tucker Carlson was fired or something.
My above explains that that is not the case. PBS does have some liberal bias with shows such as Bill Moyers and NOW and no conservative counterparts. The same cannot be said about CNN or MSNBC though.
Well that's because I've actually heard the arguments for liberal bias, including on this forum and it's ridiculous. One individual for instance stated that MSNBC was basically admitting their liberal bias because one unknown reporter at MSNBC said it is difficult to be objective about Barack Obama. One nobody reporter makes a claim that he has problems objectively talking about one Democrat and he treats it as an admission by MSNBC itself. Not to mention two other posters agreed with him.

[quote]wow are a member of Demundergound? how about daily kost? like the nation? but there is no liberal bias in the MSM [/QUOTE

This is exactly what I'm talking about. The Demunderground and the Daily Kost are internet based organizations. That isn't mainstream. What do the major media outlets have to do with internet communities? As a matter of fact only liberals and Democrats are allowed in those communities and even if they weren't only those kind of individuals would actually go. If I could find more conservative websites in an hour then you could liberal ones would that prove there is conservative bias in the MSM?


You don't even realize that you destroyed your own argument and proved my case by bringing in online communities. If anyone should be laughing it's me. Who else do you consider to be part of the MSM Myspace? Are we going to start considering think tanks as part of the MSM too?

[quote=nemesis;173477]Your argument falls apart from the start. I do not believe that most news agencies are conservatives. What I do believe is that most political pundits are conservative but most of them are on Fox and that is what causes the conservative inbalance. In fact Fox has more media personalities (as opposed to simply state the facts reporters) in general and since all but one is conservative it causes the inbalance

But I don't consider any other station bias except PBS which seems to have a liberal bias although I don't consider all the shows on there bias. MSNBC despite the liberal claims has about the same number of liberals and conservatives or at least used to as I've heard Tucker Carlson was fired or something.


My above explains that that is not the case. PBS does have some liberal bias with shows such as Bill Moyers and NOW and no conservative counterparts. The same cannot be said about CNN or MSNBC though.


Well that's because I've actually heard the arguments for liberal bias, including on this forum and it's ridiculous. One individual for instance stated that MSNBC was basically admitting their liberal bias because one unknown reporter at MSNBC said it is difficult to be objective about Barack Obama. One nobody reporter makes a claim that he has problems objectively talking about one Democrat and he treats it as an admission by MSNBC itself. Not to mention two other posters agreed with him.

every major story this election season broke on a blog, or on the internet based political web sites

every one of them was talked about atnauseum before the MSM referred to it, and btw since you seem to have a reading comp problem i didnt ever in my post refer to any of the sites you dont say you are affiliated with as MSM , i asked if you were a member of those organizations since you are blind to the MSM being liberally biased, those sites also believe in that tom foolery

but nice try and slamming me for something i didnt say that is better than actually addressing what i said


i rest my case

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Well my mistake then. Your sentence was structured in a manner to suggest you were saying both due to the errors, but I'll take your word for it.

And by the way was it not presumptious of you to think I was part of any radical left wing community group which I'm not? I noticed you completely ignored my other points. Care to address them?

they were not really worth addressing since you attacked what i didnt say and pretty much troll around the board bashing fox

you are not good at keeping under cover brother.....

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You have yet to provide any evidence of liberal bias in the media. Interestingly enough you did in fact mention three liberal organizations and then said in the following sentence "but there is no liberal bias in the MSM". How exactly did you expect me to take it? At any rate I knew you were incapable of responding.