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12-03-2007, 10:23 AM
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Canada and Quebec
Quebec
Capital City - Quebec City
Largest Capital - Montreal
Official Language - French
Area - 1,542,056 kmē
Population - 7,700,807
GDP - C$285.158 billion
per capita - C$37,278
Excluding Quebec
Canada
Capital City - Ottawa
Largest City - Toronto
Official Language - English (French)
Area - 8,442,614 kmē
Population - 25,413,893
GDP-C$ 803.842 billion
per Capita - C$32,614
where is canada and how do you see its Future after Seperation of Nunavut from the Northwest Territories, can Quebec make a move for Independance??, and should it??? what do you think the Canadian Parliement, France and Britian will think of this??
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12-03-2007, 11:49 AM
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I don't think independence makes sense. I am not even sure the Nunavut regions would separate.
It has already nowadays autonomy rights, even though I dont know how far they go exactly. (I think however far enough to deserve that name) Quebec would be stupid to secede from Canada, its better to be part of a larger family and its not like Canadians from both sides would have nothing in common I think.
They might press for further reaching autonomy, but secession? No.
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12-19-2007, 12:57 PM
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Support for separation among the French is at a relative low at the moment, so I don’t think it will happen anytime soon.
Nunavut could not sustain itself, not currently.
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12-19-2007, 02:34 PM
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Great Elector
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Originally Posted by Arab League
Quebec
Capital City - Quebec City
Largest Capital - Montreal
Official Language - French
Area - 1,542,056 kmē
Population - 7,700,807
GDP - C$285.158 billion
per capita - C$37,278
Excluding Quebec
Canada
Capital City - Ottawa
Largest City - Toronto
Official Language - English (French)
Area - 8,442,614 kmē
Population - 25,413,893
GDP-C$ 803.842 billion
per Capita - C$32,614
where is canada and how do you see its Future after Seperation of Nunavut from the Northwest Territories, can Quebec make a move for Independance??, and should it??? what do you think the Canadian Parliement, France and Britian will think of this??
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The Territories are not independent, they're still part of Canada.
Quebec can't seperate like it use to think it could. The supreme court has determined that they would need a 2/3 majority, not a simple majority and considering the decrease of proportion of Quebecors to immigrants, it will be even that much harder to get when in 1995 they couldn't even get a simple majority.
Also, the Canadian Parliament works fine, Montersquieu would call it the perefect check and balance system.
Britain has no control of Canada since 1982
France hasn't had any sort of control since the early 1800's
So they have nothing to say about this.
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12-19-2007, 02:36 PM
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Great Elector
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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas
I don't think independence makes sense. I am not even sure the Nunavut regions would separate.
It has already nowadays autonomy rights, even though I dont know how far they go exactly. (I think however far enough to deserve that name) Quebec would be stupid to secede from Canada, its better to be part of a larger family and its not like Canadians from both sides would have nothing in common I think.
They might press for further reaching autonomy, but secession? No.
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They have their own judicial system (a la continental rather than common law) and vary on some policies such as immigration and the like
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12-20-2007, 02:43 PM
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Quebec may preserve the French language, maybe not. Its definitely in long term danger. Either way, however, the traditional white "pure wool" French Canadian population will disappear just as whites are dissappearing throughout the western world. It will happen faster in Quebec though, because the birth rate is one of the lowest in the world (and the abortion rate is one of the highest), while immigration is massive into Montreal.
So far immigrants tend to stay on the island, but obviously this will change over time. Whether the French language will survive without "pure wool" Quebecois to preserve it is an open question. Immigrants are learning French in school, but whether that equates to long term assimilation of the language as their primary communications vehicle is another story.
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12-21-2007, 02:17 PM
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Being an Albertan I've never really given two shish kabobs about Quebec's separatist movement.
I've always though separation would be horrible for them considering ;Quebec receives BILLIONS in equalization payments compared to zero that my province recieves and Quebec is known for their lack of job opportunities/unemployment rate.
My friend from Belgium says this kind of stuff happens in his country all the time. The country has Northern Flemish(Dutch speakers) and Southern Wallon(French speakers). Every so often a headline of the country being broken up and joining with the Netherlands and France, when in reality, the chance is miniscule.
Blessings,
Marko
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12-21-2007, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rob_anderson
Quebec may preserve the French language, maybe not. Its definitely in long term danger. Either way, however, the traditional white "pure wool" French Canadian population will disappear just as whites are dissappearing throughout the western world. It will happen faster in Quebec though, because the birth rate is one of the lowest in the world (and the abortion rate is one of the highest), while immigration is massive into Montreal.
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I sincerely hope the french langauge stays in Quebec. I'm slowly learning it now, its such a valuable tool and can open so many doors for me not just in Canada but abroad.
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12-27-2007, 06:27 PM
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professional pirate
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those cooks have been try to break away from Canada since forever. i was stuck in Quebec in the 2001 blackout and that was the only time i was thankful they are trying to break away because they were on there own power grid. i'll give them credit though Quebec city is awesome.
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12-28-2007, 12:35 AM
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Great Elector
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The seperatist movement has only started in the 1990's when Quebecors were not granted to be considered a different nation (nation does not mean a seperate state in this case).
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