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Old 08-24-2007, 11:11 AM
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Cool Does Chavez buy Argentina ?

Chavez, the Dracula, declares that he will liberate the Latin America from the American imperialists and therefore buys up the Argentinian debts , since 2005 he bought up its debt in the amount of over 4,3 mld dollars , now Chavez wants to buy up the debts of Ecuador and Bolivia . Orlando Ochoa,the economist of the Catholic University accused Chavez ´debt purchasing of being the greatest financial corruption in the history of Venezuela, the state premium being paid out to the banks Chavez favours and denounced this speculative non-productive enrichment of the Chavez´ pampered bankers, entrepreneurs and high officials of his taste ...
Actually ,in spite of its proclamation Venezuela is not able to pump the assigned daily quota of oil due to the lack of investment .... Chavez , abig admirer of Putin the Great , did not succeed in his efforts to build an oil pipeline from V. via Brazil to Argentina , nor did he in his project of the South Bank but despite this he keeps to the diplomacy of suitcases crammed with petrodollars as he showed it at the beginning of August in Argentina, though this time a great suitcase scandal followed when the Argentinian customs officers at the Buenos Aires airport seized such a petrodollar suitcase crammed with 800.000 dollars to the Venezuelan millionaire residing in Miami Antonini who at the top of that travelled aboard a plane together with the management of the Venezuelan Petroleos de venezuela hired by Argentinian governmental officials . Pres. Kirchner couldn´t other but pretend a big indignation and asked his friend Chavez what was the petrodollar suitcase meant for and accused the Venezuelan government of capitalizing on the " dupability " of the Argentinian gevernment ... Nevertheless, the petrodollar suitcases are mushrooming in the Argentinian government and Kirchner was not able to give a single credible explanation in which way Chavez could leave a petrodollar suitcase in at the toilet facility of Madame Felisa Miceli, the ministry of economy ...
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:24 PM
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Frankly, my take on Chavez is that he emulates his mentor Fidel Castro to the point that he wants to become a catalyst in fufilling Castro's promise to socialize all of Latin America. Argentina is but the beginning. Chavez will continue Castro's work after he passes and even if Cuba normalizes relations with the US. Chavez has all of the ingredients necessary to do just that. Money from oil resources, Castro's unwaivering support, sympathy from the lefty's in the US, and a downtrodden uneducated population that sees Chavez as anything better then what they had.

Chavez sees himself as the new Bolivar and his expansionism within Latin America and hatred for the US will lead to revolutions across the S. American continent.

In sum, the man is a fat mouth incompetant with a pile of money and an unlimited rein.

Chavez has been described on this forum as a "monkey" but I'd amend that to "a dangerous monkey."
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:37 PM
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Chavez sees himself as the new Bolivar and his expansionism within Latin America and hatred for the US will lead to revolutions across the S. American continent.
He doesn't have hatred for the US....he just hates George Bush and equally paranoid Republicans in the US.

Also....it isn't possible to socialize South America economically or politically
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:50 PM
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He doesn't have hatred for the US....he just hates George Bush and equally paranoid Republicans in the US.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/050531a.aspx

Also....it isn't possible to unify South America economically or politically
I'm not certain. S. America is a potentially volatile area.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:38 PM
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I'm not certain. S. America is a potentially volatile area.
I thank you for the input and I considered the article fully. My reservation though is that The Christian BN is pretty conservative. The article didn't quote Chavez directly it simply states forgone conclusions that he supposedly made or put forth implications as such. It just doesn't pass my basic logic test for lack of clarity of statement, and no direct quote.

I could throw in some highly questionable left wing propaganda too......
Tim Giago: Hugo Chavez Steps Up for Native Americans and the Poor - Politics on The Huffington Post

It seems to me if Chavez had verbally attacked all Americans and not just Bush/Republicans....the left wouldn't be having so much fun waving dangling Chavez in Bush's face every chance they get like Ms Huffington is doing.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:27 AM
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Chavez is a very dangerous man because of his long-term connection with the Russian Military Intelligence Service GRU and via his old connection men from GRU he had made a much greater weaponry deal than it states the article dealing with his purchase of 5.000 sniper rifles ... He made the weaponry deal while he was in the Kremlin to pay visit to Putin arranged by the certain contactmen from the GRU ... Via Chavez the GRU is sponsoring FARC witthin the narcotraffic frame and Chavez via GRU was also involved in the staged trial with gen. Arnaldo Ochoa, who was executed for treason in a staged trial on July012th,1989, a close friend of Raul Castro,took part in fights in Sierra Maestra and in the Bay of Pigs, then he was in Angola cooperating closely with the GRU who understood than gen. Ochoa as an intelligent individual was the only real rival to Fidel and Co. so it put the idea into Fidel´s head ...
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:57 AM
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Chavez is a very dangerous man because of his long-term connection with the Russian Military Intelligence Service GRU and via his old connection men from GRU he had made a much greater weaponry deal than it states the article dealing with his purchase of 5.000 sniper rifles
One of the reasons Castro had trouble socializing South America, which happens to be Chavez's roadblock too, is Brazil. They dominate the continent militarily and diplomatically. They're not going to let Chavez pull some kind of old school cold war communist conquest of South America. That last sentence is just my opinion
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:41 AM
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Let´s hope ,Bradgriff, you are right. Brazil is the largest military power in LA and Argentina is the only country which might pose a military threat for it (since 1980 A. has been on an integration process with B., but under Kirchner the process has been slowed ) ...The question is whether the Brazilian army does not stand on clay feet considering its political risk rating (corruption,inflation) being a deadly one ... But ,naturally, it is the superpower ... Have a nice day .
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