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05-31-2007, 04:08 PM
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It's colony, so colonialism is act of agression...it belongs to Falklanders  ...
But if you see it through the eyes of modern day politics: if we let every island, every county, every village right on "self-determination" world would collapse.. by that, Falklands belongs to UK..
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05-31-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Che Guevara
It's colony, so colonialism is act of agression...it belongs to Falklanders  ...
But if you see it through the eyes of modern day politics: if we let every island, every county, every village right on "self-determination" world would collapse.. by that, Falklands belongs to UK..
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If the Falklanders wanted to be independent, I'm sure they could be.
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05-31-2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by perdidochas
If the Falklanders wanted to be independent, I'm sure they could be.
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I agree, but look at the situtation. I can compare on massive scales with Tibet. Tibet wants independance. OK. China is sending millions of Chinese there with new railway to Lhasa (major city of Tibet). Chinese 40%, Chinese 50%, Chinese 60%, Chinese 70%, Chinese 80%. Tibet? Tibet what?
Offcourse that Falklanders don't want independance, they are mostly orginated from UK, and besides that there are probably economic ties in all this dilemma..
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05-31-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Che Guevara
I agree, but look at the situtation. I can compare on massive scales with Tibet. Tibet wants independance. OK. China is sending millions of Chinese there with new railway to Lhasa (major city of Tibet). Chinese 40%, Chinese 50%, Chinese 60%, Chinese 70%, Chinese 80%. Tibet? Tibet what?
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Totally different issue than the Falklands. It's irrelevant to this thread.
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Originally Posted by Che Guevara
Offcourse that Falklanders don't want independance, they are mostly orginated from UK, and besides that there are probably economic ties in all this dilemma..
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There are no Falkland Islands aborigines. The islands were uninhabited when they were landed on by Europeans.
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07-14-2007, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 3v3r1ast
But when compare in distace??Is the British closer or Argentine???THe white(i'm not being rasists)thinks that if they found a place that place is theirs.Example the moon,now people is buying land on the moon like its theirs at the first place.
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and lets not forget what they did to the aborignals in australia
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12-03-2007, 10:05 AM
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i totaly disagree with the concept of people deciding who to follow... this will mean that if Pakistanis of Indians out number the British they can vote for Britian to be part of Pakistan or India...
or another scenario, if Arabs in france out number the French they can claim France as Magharibian???
Mexicans in the southern states of America....or, or, or
the list goes on endlessly...
the Falklands is a complicated issue, because it is part of the new world, no previous civilization has been their, so you can just claim it to Argentina due to geographical reasons... as for Giberltar, ceuta, and Mellile, well, these territories were Historically Moroccan and Spanish, so you cant really get away with it like the Falklands...
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03-25-2008, 12:25 PM
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Falklanders speak English and consider themselves British citizens, without complaint.
It's impressive that Argentina wants the islands so bad that they've made it a stipulation of their constitution:
"The recovery of said territories and the full exercise of sovereignty, respectful of the way of life of their inhabitants and according to the principles of international law, are a permanent and unrelinquished goal of the Argentine people."
It's ironic that the military dictatorship in the 1980's attacked the Falklands in order to rally national support, and that although the regime fell, it's still a rallying point for national sentiment.
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03-25-2008, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Oz
The Falklands belong to whoever the people who live there decide it should belong to. If they think it should be part of Argentina, then it is, if they think it should be part of the UK, then it is, if they decide it ought to be independent then it is.
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Completely agree and thanks too General Galtieri deciding to invade the people will only vote to remain part of the UK . Many British servicemen died protecting their right to decide ...it will not be given up lightly.
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03-29-2008, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Beetle Bailey
Using your logic; the northern part of Borneo should belong to Indonesia, not Malaysia.
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Lol... had a good laugh about that one.
But heh, if they don't like Indonesia they also could chose to belong to Brunei.
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03-29-2008, 10:32 AM
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Falklands are utterly useless for argentina. more sheep than people, it was nationalist sentiment among petty generals but it is not a real objective anymore.
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