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Old 04-11-2007, 12:58 AM
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I am posting this here to see if there can be any civil discusions..I previously posted this at websites all over the world..especially on Indymedia sites..many still have it listed...but the search engines are blocking it. I am amazed at how I never ever got any feed back or support from one Canadian..at least in the USA there are many organisations such as Blackboxvoting who produced HBOs amazing show called "Hacking Democracy"..Millions of people in the US now realize that the voting process has been under attack for a very long time..Here in Canada the people are completely propadandized and sedated..mostly because they are enjoying an easy fruitful life..and just don't care..one thing did change in Canada..there has not been one majority government elected in this country since I published this..as they are no longer able to get away with fixing the elections...here is a link to the original version which is easier to read..click HERE

Corrupt Canadian Elections
(Vote Fixing)
....................Let it be known to all.................................
I wrote this document entitled “Remedy for our stolen democracy” In hopes that you’ll realize that this is information which all Free Canadians need to know, to insure the protection of our democracy. This statement has previously been released to all members of our Parliament. This has been read by many people on-line at the Internet's World Wide Web, at public forums, on line news medias…and more.
.............Remedy for Our Stolen Democracy.............

Dear Citizens: Please read this. (originally written 2001 and revised after June 30 2002)
We in Canada have a very serious problem with corruption in our voting process. It has been going on since approximately 1969.(since the use of computers) I witnessed this as a result of working on a federal election campaign.
We have a very old voting system that is extremely flawed. First, it has to be understood how a voting station (polling station) works.
Polling stations are manned by public volunteers from all represented parties. All activities and ballot counting is witnessed by them in the polling stations. When the polling station closes, the witnesses manually count all ballots for each riding. Then the results are reported by telephone to the Solicitor Generals office in Ottawa (and local campaign headquarters). At which time the solicitor general can enter any vote results he or she feels like entering, as there are no witnesses present for this process.
In Canada, there is no way to verify those results. As all ballots are blank. The ballots are useless once the witnesses leave the polling stations. There is no way to verify the accuracy of the information that the solicitor enters in the computer bank. We have no safe guards against the corruption of vote results. Most corruption will occur in highly populated areas. Since these activities will likely not be noticed. Another thing to realize is that while the votes are being counted, no one knows what the vote count results are at the other polling stations in the riding, and in this way if the results reported on the television are wrong. None of the witnesses well be aware of it.. Realize that each riding has many polling stations. So none of the witnesses really knows what the total vote count is for the riding.. This makes it very easy to corrupt the vote count. Only the campaign headquarters knows the vote tally. And as I discovered when the fraud happens there is no remedy for it. Who would believe it.
It is to be understood that if even the smallest possibility for vote corruption exists. Then all possible safe guards should be put in place for the witnesses to eliminate it.
I suggest that we put into place a system where all ballots have a unique UPC bar code on the backside. Then each polling station would be allotted a predetermined number of ballots. The location of each and every ballot would be accounted for, through the whole voting process. The ballots would randomly and anonymously be given out to voters at each polling station. At the end of the day the used and unused ballots could be counted manually as well as with a computerized counting machine (Scanned with computer).
All activities need to be monitored by the volunteer (public) witnesses. The ballots will still need to be counted manually. In this way, all ballots will be accounted for in the whole country.
To further safe guard. Each and every volunteer will be given a printed signed copy of the results, to keep, before they leave the polling station. So that results can be collaborated in the future by the volunteers at an on line site or manually through public records. There should also be any other security safe guards put in place to ensure that the possibility for corruption never exists again.
Note; The chief reporting electoral officer should have no authority to do any certifying of vote results without public witnesses from the represented parties being present to witness all his certification activities…
Our votes need to be protected. Our democracy starts at the polling stations on the day we vote. Lets make sure it does not stop there!.
I AM A PROUD AND FREE CANADIAN…
Sincerely, Mr. Daniel J Towsey
All truth passes through three stages
First it is ridiculed
Second it is violently opposed (attacked)

Third it is accepted as self evident

Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher
1788-1860

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Old 04-14-2007, 08:12 AM
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I am posting this here to see if there can be any civil discusions..I previously posted this at websites all over the world..especially on Indymedia sites..many still have it listed...but the search engines are blocking it. I am amazed at how I never ever got any feed back or support from one Canadian..at least in the USA there are many organisations such as Blackboxvoting who produced HBOs amazing show called "Hacking Democracy"..Millions of people in the US now realize that the voting process has been under attack for a very long time..Here in Canada the people are completely propadandized and sedated..mostly because they are enjoying an easy fruitful life..and just don't care..one thing did change in Canada..there has not been one majority government elected in this country since I published this..as they are no longer able to get away with fixing the elections...here is a link to the original version which is easier to read..click HERE

Corrupt Canadian Elections
(Vote Fixing)
....................Let it be known to all.................................
I wrote this document entitled “Remedy for our stolen democracy” In hopes that you’ll realize that this is information which all Free Canadians need to know, to insure the protection of our democracy. This statement has previously been released to all members of our Parliament. This has been read by many people on-line at the Internet's World Wide Web, at public forums, on line news medias…and more.
.............Remedy for Our Stolen Democracy.............

Dear Citizens: Please read this. (originally written 2001 and revised after June 30 2002)
We in Canada have a very serious problem with corruption in our voting process. It has been going on since approximately 1969.(since the use of computers) I witnessed this as a result of working on a federal election campaign.
We have a very old voting system that is extremely flawed. First, it has to be understood how a voting station (polling station) works.
Polling stations are manned by public volunteers from all represented parties. All activities and ballot counting is witnessed by them in the polling stations. When the polling station closes, the witnesses manually count all ballots for each riding. Then the results are reported by telephone to the Solicitor Generals office in Ottawa (and local campaign headquarters). At which time the solicitor general can enter any vote results he or she feels like entering, as there are no witnesses present for this process.
In Canada, there is no way to verify those results. As all ballots are blank. The ballots are useless once the witnesses leave the polling stations. There is no way to verify the accuracy of the information that the solicitor enters in the computer bank. We have no safe guards against the corruption of vote results. Most corruption will occur in highly populated areas. Since these activities will likely not be noticed. Another thing to realize is that while the votes are being counted, no one knows what the vote count results are at the other polling stations in the riding, and in this way if the results reported on the television are wrong. None of the witnesses well be aware of it.. Realize that each riding has many polling stations. So none of the witnesses really knows what the total vote count is for the riding.. This makes it very easy to corrupt the vote count. Only the campaign headquarters knows the vote tally. And as I discovered when the fraud happens there is no remedy for it. Who would believe it.
It is to be understood that if even the smallest possibility for vote corruption exists. Then all possible safe guards should be put in place for the witnesses to eliminate it.
I suggest that we put into place a system where all ballots have a unique UPC bar code on the backside. Then each polling station would be allotted a predetermined number of ballots. The location of each and every ballot would be accounted for, through the whole voting process. The ballots would randomly and anonymously be given out to voters at each polling station. At the end of the day the used and unused ballots could be counted manually as well as with a computerized counting machine (Scanned with computer).
All activities need to be monitored by the volunteer (public) witnesses. The ballots will still need to be counted manually. In this way, all ballots will be accounted for in the whole country.
To further safe guard. Each and every volunteer will be given a printed signed copy of the results, to keep, before they leave the polling station. So that results can be collaborated in the future by the volunteers at an on line site or manually through public records. There should also be any other security safe guards put in place to ensure that the possibility for corruption never exists again.
Note; The chief reporting electoral officer should have no authority to do any certifying of vote results without public witnesses from the represented parties being present to witness all his certification activities…
Our votes need to be protected. Our democracy starts at the polling stations on the day we vote. Lets make sure it does not stop there!.
I AM A PROUD AND FREE CANADIAN…
Sincerely, Mr. Daniel J Towsey
All truth passes through three stages
First it is ridiculed
Second it is violently opposed (attacked)

Third it is accepted as self evident

Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher
1788-1860


To be accurate that should probably read... Some truth passes through three stages? I burn my hand I don't ridicule the event and then violently oppose that it ever happened. I just go ouch, truth is fire burns, don't touch that.

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Old 06-04-2007, 02:05 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree with the OP. He seems to be trying to indicate the Chief Elections Officer is operating in a vacuum. Obviously the people reporting the results would know if he fudged them.

And the system is pretty good actually. There is no practical way to fire the head guy...only if there is cause, which is to say fraud. That pretty much makes him very difficult to bribe...he isn't beholding to anyone for his position, which he keeps until age 65, at a very good salary. Why would he risk it?
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