zxc

The DREAM Act (S. 774)is an amnesty that extends to the millions of illegal aliens who entered the United States before the age of 16. The illegal alien who applies for this amnesty is immediately rewarded with "conditional" lawful per*manent resident (green card) status, which can be converted to a non-conditional green card in short order.

To qualify, the immigrant student or armed service member would have to meet certain requirements such as:

* Proof of having arrived in the United States at age 15 or younger;
* Proof of residence in the United States for a least five (5) consecutive years since their date of arrival.
* Having graduated from an American High School, or obtained a GED.
* "Good moral character," essentially defined as the absence of a significant criminal record (or any drug charges whatsoever).

Immigrants who meet the above requirements would be eligible to apply for a temporary six (6) year "conditional" residence permit which would allow them to live legally in the United States, obtain driver's licenses, attend college (at either in-state or out-sate rates, depending on sate of residence), work legally (including obtaining a social security number), and apply for special travel documents which would allow for travel outside of the country for limited amounts of time.

During the six years of conditional status, the eligible immigrant would be required to either (1) graduate from a two-year community college, (2) complete at least two years towards a 4-year degree, or (3) serve two years in the U.S. military. After the six year period, an immigrant who meets at least one of these three conditions would be eligible to apply for legal permanent resident (green card) status.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act

Do you think this will go through? Why/Why not?

Why do you support/oppose it?

Thanks.

Sotired

I certainly hope not , at this point in time I am not happy with or sure that the government is going to enforce our laws and uphold our constitution however.


I am against it , because would reward illegal behavior and give a backdoor entrance into the states for Illegals

emptypepsi

Well, one - nobody is given a green card up front, as the OP suggests. Two - you can obtain a living permit only after passing requirements. Having a diploma, no criminal background, etc. look like pretty good conditions.

Then, the person must get on their way to obtaining a college degree or serve in the military in order to obtain an actual green card. I think this would not only show their committment to the U.S. (military service), but increase the amount of skilled workers (college education).

I can understand skepticism in this being enforced, but I'm simply wondering how the terms of this are considered 'amnesty'. It seems the requirements for them to stay would equal a good rate of return in the end.

Do I think it will go through? Doubtful.

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Sotired

because they are here Illegally to begin with hence amnesty - it rewards them by giving them a way ahead of those who obeyed the immigration laws of our country. AND OUR OWN CITIZENS
and it allows them further to get green cards for their parents, 3 for one ahead of those who obeyed the law

doesnt deserve even to be voted on , it should have been laughed off the floor

emptypepsi

Sounds to me like they are not going to be given anything 'ahead' of anyone. According to your own source, it would take six years and college credit work/military service (which immigrants who go the right way are not even being made to have) in order to get a green card. I would say that's a bit different than "Here, take your green card now".

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Contumacious

Unconstitutional.

The Constitution has NEVER been amended in order to authorize the federal government to be involved in immigration. Its ONLY power is that to NATURALIZE citizens.

If a particular citizen does not want US citizenship then his only rights are those authorized or conferred by state law.

Chesty Puller

I do not agree with this at all, no. If you came here illegally then thats it, your out. Return to your country of origin and apply for legal citizenship.

I have no problem with legal immigrants who followed the process, my problem is with the liberal celebs and media trying to play it off like those people who feel like I do are bigots.

Sotired

The dream act is up for a vote in the next 24 hours

American citizens , contact your Senators and let them know exactly what you think of this bill.

zxc

counterpointing

Our government doesn’t have the credibility on this issue to do anything but enforce existing laws. I used to vote for the Democrats, but since amnesty has become their slogan, maybe not anymore. Someone could argue that it’s not amnesty if the “undocumented workers” have to pay a fine. Still, that would be a pardon.

Trying to get this amnesty over on Americans, by passing it a bit at a time, is underhanded.

The worst of it is the false-dilemma the politicians use to try and deceive the public with--it’s a shame and a sham. I don’t think I need mention it.