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Old 08-16-2007, 01:53 PM
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Assimilate or get out of the U.S.

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Assimilate or get out of the U.S.

DR. DOMENICK MAGLIO

Published: Aug 14, 2007

The United States immigration issue is simpler than we are making it. Either a foreigner wants to become an American, pledging his allegiance or be deported. This is not a novel, unreasonable or radical idea. It has been used throughout our history.

During the massive European immigration of the early 1900s, not everyone who entered Ellis Island was allowed to stay. Immigrants who were physically defective or considered politically subversive were rejected outright and deported. Criminal activity meant a one-way ticket home.

Over 100,000 Italians who came to America in the 1900s returned to Italy due to their inability or unwillingness to assimilate into the American culture. They decided America was not for them. Millions of others chose to pay their dues to proudly become part of our country.

During the great Depression, President Hoover deported illegal immigrants to open jobs for American citizens.
In 1954, President Eisenhower unleashed Operation Wetback. His administration deported 1.3 million illegal Mexicans in a two-year period. Instead of releasing them just over the border, they were placed on buses or trains going to the interior of the country. The coercive nature of this policy persuaded over half a million illegal aliens to return to their country.

* He must have been a racist. *

Our greatness as the land of opportunity can only continue by protecting our sovereignty. The present framing of the illegal immigration issue by the elites attempts to make illegal immigrants legal with the stroke of a pen. It is a smoke screen for removing the U.S. borders from the map. There are many millions of unassimilated aliens, many having little to no allegiance to our heritage. Either they adopt the culture or there will be political unrest with many calling for a separatist movement or a Western hemisphere union changing forever our cultural heritage. Americans will be robbed by greedy elitists of our vast wealth and constitutional protections.

We have the right and the legal power to choose who is allowed into our country. There are many more foreigners who want to become American citizens than we would want to or could absorb into our country. This is the reason we, like other countries, have the right to place quotas on the number of people allowed to enter. They should be the best and brightest workers who can enhance America. They need to speak English, learn our history and desire to follow our laws.

* Sounds racist doesn't it ?

No ?

This isn't racism ?

Funny how its always framed as such. Repeat an untruth enough and people will believe it ? *


The idea that America cannot prosper without open borders is ludicrous. It is the height of hypocrisy when the Mexican government lectures us about our need for open borders for survival then arrests and deports over 100,000 Hispanic illegals yearly when they enter their southern border.

Only pandering politicians and greedy businessman would accept the elimination of our sovereignty as a nation. There is no need for a Security and Prosperity Partnership between Mexico, Canada and the United States nor a guest worker program for low wage corporate workers. The interest of foreign nations or international elites should never displace that of the American citizen.

* Lets give that another read: The interest of foreign nations or international elites should never displace that of the American citizen.

Should it ? *


We Americans, who come from all over the world, have worked too hard to climb up the social ladder not to fight our self-serving leaders who want to cash in America for their personal gain. Reason and logic are on our side.

* Yet the elite mandarins in the govt. are NOT on our side. *

Anyone who has entered America illegally needs to leave and re-enter legally. Any business that hires illegals should be heavily fined or the executives imprisoned. Any illegal that attempts to remain in the U.S. should be deported. Any illegal immigrant or for that matter, citizen who thinks our streets are paved with gold just for the taking without any need to contribute should leave immediately. People with welfare or criminal intent should be deported or imprisoned. They will be a drain on our children's future.

* Lets give THAT another read: People with welfare or criminal intent should be deported or imprisoned. They will be a drain on our children's future. *

This process of becoming an American citizen always has been a long and difficult one. A person had to meet certain criteria, pay significant fees and spend many years completing the bureaucratic red tape. By the time one finished the arduous procedures, he had reaffirmed his desire and commitment to become an assimilated American citizen. Dedicated citizens, not illegals, are the fuel that drives our greatness. By directing our mental and physical energies through hard work, we have reaped individual success. America will continue to prosper with new American citizens who are excited about the vast opportunities available in the U.S. to obtain the American dream.

Reaching our goals through personal sacrifice has elevated all of America.

* Opinions ? *

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Old 08-16-2007, 05:40 PM
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Yea sure fine! Throw the illegals out.

But you have to be prepared to :
1. Pay 3 to 4 times as much for produce at stores, or pay the same and say goodbye to American farms forever.
2. Pay a lot more at restaurants.
3. If you have a gardener you'll pay $350/month instead of $75
4. Not be able to find really great "authentic" (mole, plolenta, radish-cilantro-chicken tacos) Mexican food restaurants in Northern Cal.

Now let me ask you....have you really suffered so much because of the presence of these illegals? Is loosing all these cool things is worth kicking them out? I think you haven't suffered at all...It's just Rush, Bill O'Reilly, and Hannity that have told you to be mad. I bet you haven't had a crime perpetrated on you by illegals, they haven't stollen a job from you, and your taxes haven't gone up because of them (if so too little to notice).

You're probably falling back on the old "It's illegal to be here" thing. Well guess what haters....it's only a misdemeanor....you must hate anyone who runs a stop light now.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:45 PM
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Reconfiguring and redefining who and how in the sacrificing has degraded the United States of America to a fascist leaning state bent on it’s top backers ruling the world under PNAC.

Where will your precious illegal alien argument be when they merge us with Mexico and Canada, stick a chip up your ass, and create their perfect world?

After NAU, then the whole world and its freedoms will be the sacrifice.
Assimilate into the new world order designed by the few or die.

Yeah it’s obvious what mentality your assimilation ideals come through.

You are not aware enough of your own mind as under the influence to realize it for yourself, but aware enough of those diseased desires to force the drugs of fascist tendencies onto others.

My opinion of your opinion…
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:56 PM
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I bet you haven't had a crime perpetrated on you by illegals,
Not to be a dick or anything, but I was involved in an accident with an illegal from which they ran. The wreck was pretty bad. I tried to follow the car into the parking lot that they sped off to, but had lost them until a witness found their car. There was a cop in the parking lot and when they ran he chased them down. Of coarse they didn't have insurance, but it turns out that the they (there were three of them) were wanted for kidnapping.

Not saying its the norm, but there are plenty enough of them that are just causing trouble.
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:19 PM
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Not to be a dick or anything, but I was involved in an accident with an illegal from which they ran. The wreck was pretty bad. I tried to follow the car into the parking lot that they sped off to, but had lost them until a witness found their car. There was a cop in the parking lot and when they ran he chased them down. Of coarse they didn't have insurance, but it turns out that the they (there were three of them) were wanted for kidnapping. Not saying its the norm, but there are plenty enough of them that are just causing trouble.
That's cool......I mean NOT the part about the accident....but I like how you see it's not the norm. The anti illegals camp has been flooding the conservative airwaves with exagerations of "Oh God we're all gonna die if the illegals are here" Just more from a long list: Marrage is "threatened" by gays. The practice of religion is "Under attack" because liberals don't want prayer in school. And so on......
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:52 PM
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This article overlooks the fact that our immigration system includes serious oversights; it should make sure a person is interested in becoming a part of the U.S., but it shouldn't make the process take so long or so greatly limit the number allowed to enter per year. We also are, to a disputable degree, reliant on low-wage-earning illegal immigrants. Arguing that they don't contribute to our country is ignorant. We also have the most to gain from globalization, so I don't understand this article's indirect attacks against internationalism.
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People with welfare or criminal intent should be deported or imprisoned. They will be a drain on our children's future.
This statement is so naive I have difficulty believing it's serious. "People with welfare," assuming the phrase means "people receiving welfare payment," are either looking for work or unable to work for a variety of reasons. Demanding that such people leave the country is unjust because they are trying to contribute. And what is the point of demanding that "people with...criminal intent" be imprisoned?
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:23 AM
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To me assimilation basically means: learn English and understand the way the country's government is supposed to work.

In a religious sense, I don't care who we get with immigrants. Most immigrants (and I would assume illegals) are Catholics, and most Mexicans (90%, I read once) are Roman Catholic, so the Christian base in the country is not threatened.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:48 AM
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Yea sure fine! Throw the illegals out.

But you have to be prepared to :
1. Pay 3 to 4 times as much for produce at stores, or pay the same and say goodbye to American farms forever.
2. Pay a lot more at restaurants.
3. If you have a gardener you'll pay $350/month instead of $75
4. Not be able to find really great "authentic" (mole, plolenta, radish-cilantro-chicken tacos) Mexican food restaurants in Northern Cal.


Now let me ask you....have you really suffered so much because of the presence of these illegals? Is loosing all these cool things is worth kicking them out? I think you haven't suffered at all...It's just Rush, Bill O'Reilly, and Hannity that have told you to be mad. I bet you haven't had a crime perpetrated on you by illegals, they haven't stollen a job from you, and your taxes haven't gone up because of them (if so too little to notice).

You're probably falling back on the old "It's illegal to be here" thing. Well guess what haters....it's only a misdemeanor....you must hate anyone who runs a stop light now.

Yep--prepared to do all those things--don't give a rats butt about N Calif mexican restaurants, and I think you are full of crap about American farms--farmers here in rural NW Ohio do just fine nary an illegal...
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:57 AM
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:14 PM
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Okay.....that's good!

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Yep--prepared to do all those things--don't give a rats butt about N Calif mexican restaurants, and I think you are full of crap about American farms--farmers here in rural NW Ohio do just fine nary an illegal...
Very good Writerman....I love when people tell me about a flawed statement that I make. I'll correct it to read "Say goodbye to California farmers" That means most of the tomatos, avacados, almonds, olives, asparagus, garlic, artichokes, various non orange citrus, and I'm sorry for what I left out. California by the way is the #1 state in dollars for produce production and the #1 exporting state in the country. But if you're from Ohio and you don't care....that's OK, I have nothing against Ohio and I'm glad you've kept your AG illegal free, that way you're not in the potential mess Cal will be in if illegals are deported or not used for AG....can't imagine why you would care so little about fellow your Americans our here in LahLahLand, but wait...there is this news News Network has been hating California since Bush got into office???

Anywwho......the Mexican Restaurant thing was what we call out here in Babylon h-u-m-o-r. It usually results in this non political thing called laughter. But it probably wasn't that funny.

Was your reply about imigration at all? Granted it doesn't have to be, I opened the door to that line of questioning.
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