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07-02-2007, 01:58 AM
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Republican Immigration Policies Are Devastating Hispanic Membership In Party
I came across this interview and thought it was an interesting perspective in an interview about the the Hispanic vote.
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By: Logan Murphy on Sunday

During the roundtable discussion this morning on “Meet The Press” Tim Russert posts the results of two recent polls which show an overwhelming number of Hispanics identify themselves as Democrats As NBC Political News Director Chuck Todd points out, the Republican’s stance on immigration could have an enormous impact on the Hispanic vote in 2008, especially in Florida.
Todd: “….No Bushes are going to be on the ballot in 2008. That’s probably going to flip New Mexico back to the Democrats and then you’ve got Florida. And that’s is where this thing could really, really hurt the Republicans, because if they lose Florida, there is no path - there is no Electoral College path to winning the White House.”
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Last edited by Tumbleweed; 07-02-2007 at 02:03 AM.
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07-08-2007, 04:02 AM
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Hispanics in most places and most times have for a long time voted 2 to 1 for the democrats, which is precisely why dems want amnesty.
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07-08-2007, 05:11 AM
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I don't vote Democrap.
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07-09-2007, 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Hispanics in most places and most times have for a long time voted 2 to 1 for the democrats, which is precisely why dems want amnesty.
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As a hispanic i gotta agree with you. Nothing new here.
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07-09-2007, 11:28 PM
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Well you can't gain without losing. Democrats gaining most of the Hispanic votes will probably make them lose many white voters, and a few black voters who are uneasy with illegal immigration. So it may even out in the end.
Why do I see images of exit polls in my head showing Hispanics going over 80% DEM in 2008, but a strong GOP-white vote keeps a swing state Republican in 2008?
I agree with Chuck Todd that New Mexico will probably flip back to the Democrats. I also think Democrats have a good shot in Nevada, and could, but unlikely, win Arizona.
Florida, I doubt will flip Democratic in 2008. Democrats did not spend hardly anything there in 2006, when they had the good chance of winning the Governorship. With a Republican Governor, who is popular in the state, Florida should remain in the GOP column. The freshman Democrat that was elected to Mark Foley's seat barely won, with the name of a pedophile on the ballot. Everyone believed the Attorney General and Chief Financial Officer's elections were going to go to the Democrats, but only the latter did. Bill Nelson won big yes, but that was only because of a gal name Katherine Harris and the national wave. It is true that if some other candidate not named Jeb Bush won, Nelson would have likely won because the climate however.
In many ways, Florida could become even more Republican with white suburbanites voting even more overwhelmingly Republican over the issue of illegal immigration.
So in conclusion, immigration may help DEMs rank up the Hispanic Vote, but lose white voters in states with high illegal immigrant populations. This will likely have little to no effect in my home state, Missouri.. lol
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07-09-2007, 11:33 PM
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In a close race, I don't think the Republicans can afford to alienate the Hispanic voters.
They need to at least make an effort to sway as many as possible. IMO.
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07-10-2007, 02:57 AM
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Reeve
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You wanna win more hispanic votes? Shut down the GD borders to illegal aliens.
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07-15-2007, 03:56 PM
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We will have to wait and see what will happen. Obviously the Senate failed in bringing an immigration bill to the table.
When the bill failed the first time, and both parties were slinging dirt at eachother blaming the other side of the aisle for the mishap, it made me sick. I was thinking to myself, who are these grown men not being accountable for their own actions?
Bottom line is that both parties failed in bringing this bill across, and I suppose the Democrats are the more hispanic friendly party.
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08-01-2007, 12:52 PM
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This always astounds me.
Being entirely honest, let's face it: Hispanics (citizens/legal residents still do not have economic parity with "white" Americans. That given, what on earth are Hispanics thinking when they vote to throw open the borders, allowing millions of others to come in here and compete directly with them and their sons and daughters for jobs that have traditionally been taken by Hispanic Americans?
Tokenconservative
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08-01-2007, 12:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tehnitis55
We will have to wait and see what will happen. Obviously the Senate failed in bringing an immigration bill to the table.
When the bill failed the first time, and both parties were slinging dirt at eachother blaming the other side of the aisle for the mishap, it made me sick. I was thinking to myself, who are these grown men not being accountable for their own actions?
Bottom line is that both parties failed in bringing this bill across, and I suppose the Democrats are the more hispanic friendly party.
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You seem to be misunderstanding what happened.
It isn't that they "failed to" get the bill passed, it's that a grassroots effort by Americans--of all political stripes--innundated their "representatives" with calls, letters and emails demanding that these "representatives" shut the Bush-Kennedy Scamnesty bill down.
This was not a "failure." This was a major success, the first one I've seen since Congress voted to go to war against radical Islam. And it's the first time I've seen liberal and conservative, Dem and R Americans come together on an issue in decades.
How anyone can believe what was about to happen to this country by casting open the borders and bringing in some (minimum) 100 million sub-educted, low-skill new "citizens" was a good idea is beyond me.
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