emptypepsi

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Sorry, but this story is just ridiculous and going way too far with 'diversity teaching'. Diversity is one thing. I believe it is almost vital for American children to learn a second language and study other cultures and countries, those of their own choosing (perhaps those cultures of their heritage). English is becoming more a universal skill with many countries, and I do think it is fair to ask Americans (though not force) to learn a second language, or even a third if they wish.

But pledging alliegance to the Mexican flag as diversity teaching? That is going too far, IMO. Am I in the wrong here?

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Coyote Says

It sounds kinda silly. I personally have a problem with pledging allegiance to a piece of cloth. Why don't they just learn about the Mexican flag and stick to language lessons? At the very least, it's gonna piss a whole lot of people off.

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FRYandBENDER

Hell no your not wrong. Pledging alliegance to another flag in America is retarded, especially if your a citizen, or a teacher making citizens do it. Hell, we can't even make them say our pledge of alliegance if they don't want to. This diversity shit has gone way too far. I love learning about other cultures, especially central and south American countries, but I don't think that by my pledging alliegance to that country is going to make me, or anyone else for that matter, understand the people, culture, or heritage of any country. Jesus, especially when a lot of our children, and adults, don't even understand how our government works, they think that it is important for them to learn how others do? This is trasparent as hell. They want to change our country to suit them and that is all there is to it.

FRYandBENDER

And your not pledging alliegance to a piece of cloth. The "piece of cloth" is a symbol for what this country stands for, or did stand for depending on your views. When you say the pledge you are not supposed to concentrate on the flag and appreciate it, your supposed to appreciate that you were lucky enough to live in a country where if you work hard enough you can go from living in filth to driving a BMW, and remember those who risked their lives to write the Bill of Rights and Constitution and had the vision that people from all heritages could come together under a set of laws and live in a nation like no other in history. Your supposed to remember the sacrifices of our great grandfathers and grand fathers who looked down the barrel of a machine gun or tank and ran toward it so that we could keep a country where we have freedom of thought, religion, etc. Your not pledging to the "piece of cloth" or even our government, your pledging to an idea. An idea that you are your own indivual and that as long as you play nice and obey the law, you can go anywhere and do anything. You might think it sounds cheesy, especially if your not American, but I guarantee you that if the politicans, and a lot of citizens for that matter, understood this we wouldn't have nearly as many problems as we do now.

Izzibeth

i was never one for pledging allegiance. however, i do believe that it is quite silly to have students "pledge allegiance" to another country's flag while in the United States and as a United States citizen. that doesn't make any sense at all. i don't know what masterminds had that school meeting but... somebody wasn't thinking clearly. and somebody else probably didn't have the courage to stand up and say "wait.... this doesn't make any sense..... at all."

Scruff

The only other time I've heard of something like this happening was in a joint military operation with Britain and America. I can't remember the exact details, but America was not able to act in a certain instance, so the American CO asked the British CO what they could do to legally take action. The officer ended up having his men pledge allegiance to the crown. He was court martialed for treason.

emptypepsi

I understand where you're coming from WRT right wing media reports, and the source I got this info from made me a bit suspicious at first (the group that broke this is incredibly right wing). I first heard about this on the radio today. However, I can understand Spanish fluently and can offer assurance that this did not sound like the US anthem to me. But in reflection, I think the former would have actually made me feel equally indignant, as I don't feel the US should be advertising things in English -- and I see that as 'advertising patriotism' in another language, so to speak.

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Ygorl

No.

Someone many of us know by his radio show says "Diversity is perversity."

Here we have yet another facet of the perverse nature of "diversity".

Just another reason homeschooling is becoming more and more popular. Who wants their children taught this brand of garbage ?

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Scruff

I contest that there is a fundamental difference between accepting cultural diversity and teaching children disloyalty to their nation.

By the way, it was the Mexican pledge of allegiance:

¡Bandera de México!
Legado de nuestros héroes,
Símbolo de la unidad
de nuestros padres
y de nuestros hermanos,
te prometemos ser siempre fieles
a los principios de libertad y justicia
que hacen de nuestra Patria,
la nación independiente,
humana y generosa,
a la que entregamos
nuestra existencia.

They begin near the middle.

Izzibeth

hmm... how far does that saying reach exactly? "Diversity is perversity".