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Old 03-11-2007, 05:40 PM
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The XIV Amendment of the Constitution grants citizen status to the children of illegal imigrants by virtue of being born in this country. This situation is not the same in all countries. Also, if an American citizen had a child while in another country the child would still be an American citizen.
It is not possible to deport a citizen of the United States without taking away their citizenship first. Therefore, a child born to illegal immigrants has nothing to fear from immigration; they are citizens.
Herein lies the rub. The scenario of children born in the US to persons of illegal status must be fairly common. What then is the practice of immigration when the parents of one of these citizens are found. It would be unlikely that the parents would be deported without their child(ren), leaving the child(ren) without parents. And of course the child cannot be deported. We never hear of such cases and can assume that the parents are allowed to stay for the sake of the child.
I suggest an amendment revoking the provision bestowing citizenship upon the children of illegal immigrants...they should be citizens of the country wherein the parents are citizens; just like they would be if the parents were American citizens abroad.
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Old 03-12-2007, 08:53 AM
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I say if the parents are stupid enough to come here knowing damn well they could be caught at any moment, and decide to have a kid - they should be forced to choose between bringing them back with them or leave them here with relatives that are legal, if they really 'care about the kid having an oppurtunity in America'. It is the parent who made the decision to have a kid and put the kid in jeopardy by doing it while being an illegal alien, not the US Government.

Should bank robbers be exempt from being arrested due to having a kid the night of the heist? I mean, gee, how could we ever think of separating them? That would, like, be totally wrong!
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:02 AM
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I believe the children are taken if the parents are found out. Since the children are legal citizens, they stay and the parents leave.
Also, this country thrives on immigration (both legal and illegal even though people would rather not admit it). Taking away the citizen rights of children born in this country would only hurt the United States in the long run.
Generally, from what I understand, most other industrialized countries grant dual citizenship to children born of illegal immigrants.
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:34 AM
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I don't think illegal immigration would be such an issue if they weren't using social services to an extent that exceeds what they put in and if there wasn't such a hot push for them to be legalized, though they trampled on laws to get here. So long as we all agree that they deserve no social benefits or welfare, I think I could find common ground with the other side. Sadly, that seems to be the one area that most can't seem to see the injustice in.
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:51 AM
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I believe the children are taken if the parents are found out. Since the children are legal citizens, they stay and the parents leave.
I have never heard of a case of that happening in the news. Seems like that would make the news if it were to happen. Also seems like there should be thousands of such cases. I cannot prove...just suspect.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:07 AM
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Here is one case where it appears to have happened. There was just a recent raid in the city next to my old hometown (people apparently jumped into freezing waters to try to hide from the police)... I'm sure the same happened there in regards to the children, although I could ask my mother (she works for the Dept. Social Services in that city).
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:12 AM
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It's a tough choice, but seperating child and parent is bad. America should aggressively fight illegal immigration and give the boot to any illegal immigrants, but it is in our Constitution that anyone born on American soil is an American citizen and you have to respect the Constitution. IMO, they parents should take the kids back to their native land and the kids should have the option of coming to America as citizens when they reach 18. Give them dual citizenship, sure, but if you kick the parents out you can't keep the kids here, you have to send them back with their parents.
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:42 PM
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Here is one case where it appears to have happened.
Thanks for the link. It was a very useful piece of information.
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:45 PM
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but if you kick the parents out you can't keep the kids here, you have to send them back with their parents.
We cannot do that; it is against the law to deport an American citizen...you must take away their citizenship before they can be deported.
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:09 PM
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Come on people, wake up!!! Are you all retards or just brain damaged from doing to many drugs? These people are playing you like a idiot! If I were them I would surely sneak my pregnant wife into the us right before she was about to give birth. DUHH!!! Automatically I would have an US baby with the tax paying individuals picking up the tab. I would suggest you invite an illegal alien family into your household along with the coyotes smuggling them into the USA. Never mind their drugs or guns............
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