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01-11-2007, 09:48 AM
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Yeah that was the difference it was newly "discovered", always enjoy that term, and there were no mlaws of any type to protect the people living there from the ravishes of immigration. When they objected to the occupation they would let them know--WAIT! Am I talking about the US or Iraq? Just a thought, LOL.
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01-11-2007, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FRYandBENDER
I believe it is just a bunch of paperwork, money, and waiting. But I'm going to try to look look it up real quick. I'm interested to see myself.
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This is the basic formula:
~There actually are two separate quota systems in place. The first quota system limits the number of people who can apply in each category, regardless of their country of birth. The second quota limits the number of people who can immigrate from any one country (this goes by the place you were born, not your nationality!). This per-country quota says that no country can send more than 7% of the total worldwide immigration (this translates to 25,620). Unfortunately, this system puts large countries at a disadvantage; the quota is the same for India and China with a billion people each as for Nauru, with approximately 10,000 people.~
US Immigration Quota System FAQ
It's necessary to study the categories to better understand priorities (waiting lists are most often termed in years) before even looking at per-country quotas. As with anything related to the US federal government, legal immigration in any category but blood relation and political refugee without a lawyer or a political connection is virtually impossible. And we all know both are always a case of you get what you pay for.
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01-12-2007, 01:15 PM
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I think the biggest different between now and then, is that times have definitely changed. We have to look at the context of the times we are now living in, and it's clear that leaving our borders unsecure could spell disaster. Not only that, but now we are seeing certain cities and states being overrun by illegal immigrants, many of whom don't possess any skills and end up being a burden on the system, especially the education system, which is now bending over backwards to accomadate illegal immigrants through ESL, etc. at the expense of other natural citizens and their own childrens' education. My kids don't have textbooks because the district can't afford any; and just recently I attended a school Christmas program that was performed in both English and Spanish at the same time.
Certainly, times have changed here in Dallas. Just look at the whole Pizza Patron thing, and how they decided to accept Pesos from their customers.
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01-12-2007, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by panteth4h2o
Certainly, times have changed here in Dallas. Just look at the whole Pizza Patron thing, and how they decided to accept Pesos from their customers.
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I saw this on the news and I don't see the big deal. I would do the same thing if a large portion of my customers where from Mexico. I would accept pounds sterling or jars of honey for that matter if it meant that I could stay in business and make a living or just so that I could have morning money at the end of the day than I did at the beginning. It's just good business sense in my opinion.
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01-12-2007, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gumbercules
I saw this on the news and I don't see the big deal. I would do the same thing if a large portion of my customers where from Mexico. I would accept pounds sterling or jars of honey for that matter if it meant that I could stay in business and make a living or just so that I could have morning money at the end of the day than I did at the beginning. It's just good business sense in my opinion.
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Well, when combined with the other things I mentioned, I think it's an indication that illegal immigration has gotten way out of hand. Buying services and products with pesos is normally something done in border towns; but now the concept has found it's way into Dallas. It reflects the overwhelming influx of illegals into this city, which is far from being a border town. We are talking at least a 10 to 12 hour drive to the nearest Mexican border. As for the DISD public school ethnicity, I pulled some stats from Wiki:
Dallas Independent School District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ethnicity
* Hispanic: 98,858, 62.6%
* African American: 47,901, 30.3%
* White: 9,174, 5.8%
* Asian: 1,619, 1.0%
* American Indian: 507, 0.3%
That's a very drastic change from twenty-five years ago. The system over here seems to be burdened with free lunch programs, ESL, and other assistance. I don't mind helping people out, but when it comes at the expense of my own children, I'm not too crazy about it. There are many Hispanics, such as myself, who feel this way, including my grandmother, who didn't know English until she started public school. She said that when teachers start speaking to you in nothing but English, you are forced to learn it very quickly. She's quite angry about illegals cutting into the social programs, especially with her being an elderly long-time taxpaying Mexican-American who currently needs help. She's old school Mexican, all the way. 
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01-12-2007, 08:47 PM
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I'm with you, panteth.
While our heritage is from Spain, my Grandmother felt the exact same way as yours appears to feel. It's a shame that others are getting all of that at her expense.
I was surprised at the plethora of media coverage of the born citizens vs the left/illegals marching in the streets on illegal immigration but at the same time lack of coverage on the abundance of legal immigrants and children of those immigrants who are vehemently against such proposals to allow them to work here without leaving first and doing it the right way. I've yet to meet one immigrant that did not see this entire situation as a disrespectful slap in the face to their sacrifices.
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01-16-2007, 11:42 AM
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Most of our ancestors were immigrants because we came over and took the land by force. I'm going to assume that mexicansare the vast majority of illegals in this country. If they want to live here, they can either (1) move here leagally or (2) take it by force. If they cant do either, they cant come here. That goes for anyone really, not just Mexicans.
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01-16-2007, 12:16 PM
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Right now they are invading so they can take it by force.
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01-16-2007, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by superbug
Right now they are invading so they can take it by force.
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The US Census bureau projects the US population to be 24% Hispanic (doubled) by 2050 using legal immigration and a high birth rate for statistical calculations. States bordering Mexico will be predominately Hispanic in population. 24% will allow them legislative empowerment without force.
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01-18-2007, 02:26 PM
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The fact remains..before it was ok.. people came in droves from all countries and at all times.. Why is then we are closing the borders now? We surely could use help rebuilding our economy since we are losing men and women daily to the war.
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