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01-11-2007, 08:12 AM
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What sort of criteria does one have to fulfill the legally emigrate to America?
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... I am surprised at your insolence in writing to me at all. You know, as I know, that I bought this constituency... may God's curse light upon you and may it make your women as open and as free to the excise officers as your wives and daughters have always been to me while I have represented your scoundrel corporation.
I have the honour to be... your obliged humble servant, Anthony Henley
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01-11-2007, 08:22 AM
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I believe it is just a bunch of paperwork, money, and waiting. But I'm going to try to look look it up real quick. I'm interested to see myself.
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Neither am I the means to any end others may wish to accomplish. I am not a tool for their use. I am not a servant of their needs. I am not a bandage for their wounds. I am not a sacrifice on their altars. ... I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask no one to live for me, nor do I live for others. I covet no mans soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.
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01-11-2007, 08:23 AM
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Why do I suddenly feel that I am stupid and that I should kill myself?
Thats weird.
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Neither am I the means to any end others may wish to accomplish. I am not a tool for their use. I am not a servant of their needs. I am not a bandage for their wounds. I am not a sacrifice on their altars. ... I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask no one to live for me, nor do I live for others. I covet no mans soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.
Ayn Rand, Anthem.
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01-11-2007, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by littlefranciscan
I dont think there was an Immigration law to start: was there?
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You mentioned the 1920's
In 1921 the first quantitave immigration law sets temporary annual quotas according to nationality. Naturalization Act of 1790 was the first immigration law that I'm aware of.
Ellis Island Immigrants
Some of my ancestors came through Ellis Island. They didn't just jump off a boat or sneak through a fence. They were processed through a port of entry. |
01-11-2007, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Troianii
Our ancestors came over here legally, or at least mine did. My ancestor came over and worked on the founding of our nation (Declaration of Independence).
Almost everyone is OK with legal immigration - it's ILLEGAL immigration that's the problem. The very idea that these people refuse to work within the laws is enough for us to not want them here, they are criminals and felons just because of the way that they got here and have no respect for the laws. Why would you fight so that someone who has no respect for the laws can come into America illegally with no repercussions? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
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My ancestors were here when those puritan people showed up and I do ot recall them being invited. I do not recall them respecting any laws that we had. As a matter of fact, I do not recall any effort to live by the laws of the "land" so to speak. For the most part, you took what you wanted and seldom respected the people you stole from. |
01-11-2007, 09:26 AM
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My folks came over in the 1650's, so I guess they are the ass holes that some people speak of. From my reading though the first one of us to come over, a few years before 1650, made nice with the indians. But who knows.
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Neither am I the means to any end others may wish to accomplish. I am not a tool for their use. I am not a servant of their needs. I am not a bandage for their wounds. I am not a sacrifice on their altars. ... I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask no one to live for me, nor do I live for others. I covet no mans soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.
Ayn Rand, Anthem.
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01-11-2007, 09:34 AM
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My ancestor were fighting the Spaniards in the SW about 50 yrs before yours got here. I believe that those on the east coast made nice for awhile, but they never made nice with the Apache. We were used as slaves before most of the blacks came. My grandfather who died in 1967 at 96, was one of the Apache scouts that tracked down Geronimo in Mexico and when it was over he was arrested and suffered the same fate as the man he help bring in, needless to say he was bitter is whole life te the government.
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01-11-2007, 09:39 AM
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Yeah, I was going to say, but didn't want to seem too insensitive, but the natives of mexico/central america got it real bad. I don't know how you could equate the destruction of different civilizations, and both north american natives and central american natives both got it pretty bad, but the spanish didn't waste anytime being dick heads.
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Neither am I the means to any end others may wish to accomplish. I am not a tool for their use. I am not a servant of their needs. I am not a bandage for their wounds. I am not a sacrifice on their altars. ... I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask no one to live for me, nor do I live for others. I covet no mans soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.
Ayn Rand, Anthem.
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01-11-2007, 09:40 AM
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I traced my ancestors to Amesbury, Mass. in the early 1600's, but the difference between then and now is there weren't any immigration laws to abide by when early settlers arrived here.
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01-11-2007, 09:44 AM
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Tyler Durden
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My folks founded Hartford, CT so they were a long ways from your folks.
I know this might sound weird to say, but it is kind of cool that your grandfather took part in history like that (tracking down Geronimo). You know, I mean some people say, my grandfather made shoes, or farmed. As badly as it might have ended, your grandfathers life was pretty signifigant. You said he died in '67 so I'm guessing they didn't kill him after brought in Geronimo, so what happened after he was arrested? If you don't mind me asking.
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Neither am I the means to any end others may wish to accomplish. I am not a tool for their use. I am not a servant of their needs. I am not a bandage for their wounds. I am not a sacrifice on their altars. ... I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask no one to live for me, nor do I live for others. I covet no mans soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.
Ayn Rand, Anthem.
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