How About A New Immigration policy - Political Forum

CHUQ · 12-27-2006, 12:57 PM

Expedited citizenship would be an incentive.

Washington - The armed forces, already struggling to meet recruiting goals, are considering expanding the number of noncitizens in the ranks - including disputed proposals to open recruiting stations overseas and putting more immigrants on a faster track to US citizenship if they volunteer - according to Pentagon officials.

Foreign citizens serving in the US military is a highly charged issue, which could expose the Pentagon to criticism that it is essentially using mercenaries to defend the country. Other analysts voice concern that a large contingent of noncitizens under arms could jeopardize national security or reflect badly on Americans' willingness to serve in uniform.

The idea of signing up foreigners who are seeking US citizenship is gaining traction as a way to address a critical need for the Pentagon, while fully absorbing some of the roughly one million immigrants that enter the United States legally each year

Military Considers Recruiting Foreigners

Tumbleweed · 12-27-2006, 01:37 PM

So this is our new immigration poicy.

Maybe that's the new Bush plan, sending mercenaries over to Iraq to fight insurgents.

I knew there were soldiers in the military who weren't US citizens, but this sounds like the military wants illegals to do jobs the US citizens don't want to do.

It doesn't make us look very patriotic towards the cause in Iraq.

george.d · 12-27-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tumbleweed

So this is our new immigration poicy.

Maybe that's the new Bush plan, sending mercenaries over to Iraq to fight insurgents.

I knew there were soldiers in the military who weren't US citizens, but this sounds like the military wants illegals to do jobs the US citizens don't want to do.

It doesn't make us look very patriotic towards the cause in Iraq.

We're not using mercenaries? I always ask the question of what would happen if military starting pay and benefits equaled that of the private sector. Is McDonald's now offering signing or re-signing bonuses up to $40k? Or free college educations? Cosmetic plastic surgery?

How many Americans or immigrants would be in Iraq based on patriotism at $8/hr, no benefits other than war related medical care, food, clothing and transportation?

Tumbleweed · 12-27-2006, 02:30 PM

I feel better knowing the military is an equal opportunity employer.

If I remember correctly, a couple of months ago the military said we were meeting recruitment quotas. I guess they forgot to mention an immigrant draft.

Maybe they won't be so anxious to come here knowing we intend to use them as combat troops.

CHUQ · 12-27-2006, 02:48 PM

It might be a better deterant than a lame wall. THe US military does use mercenaries, well not officially, but others do they are called security contractors. We must politically correct.

FRYandBENDER · 12-27-2006, 08:31 PM

I have a buddy in the navy and he said that recruiters were having to turn people away. That they were actually over staffed. Well, that was a couple of months ago. This still seems strange to me. I wonder if they are planning ahead.

george.d · 12-27-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FRYandBENDER

I have a buddy in the navy and he said that recruiters were having to turn people away. That they were actually over staffed. Well, that was a couple of months ago. This still seems strange to me. I wonder if they are planning ahead.

Iraq is what's chewing up army resources and creating their recruitment problems. Something about possibly getting seriously injured or killed and why. That's why the pentagon would like to get deeper into reserve ranks for expansion to avoid full training required for enlistees.

Air Force and navy recruitment has not been a problem. It would be interesting to see if current administration would allow immigrants desiring expedited citizenship to choose a service branch; my money would be on canon fodder enlistment only with immediate deployment to Iraq.

CHUQ · 12-28-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by george.d

Iraq is what's chewing up army resources and creating their recruitment problems. Something about possibly getting seriously injured or killed and why. That's why the pentagon would like to get deeper into reserve ranks for expansion to avoid full training required for enlistees.

Air Force and navy recruitment has not been a problem. It would be interesting to see if current administration would allow immigrants desiring expedited citizenship to choose a service branch; my money would be on canon fodder enlistment only with immediate deployment to Iraq.

Just like Vietnam, the services that would see less combat filled up and the others wen to war.

I would say the canon fodder, bullet sponge or beach fertilizer, is an accurate prediction.

FRYandBENDER · 12-28-2006, 08:08 AM

Yeah, I forgot to mention that I figured the army was a different story WRT recruitment. I guess the marines would be in the same boat.

CHUQ · 12-28-2006, 08:49 AM

But from what I understand, the Navy has a wealth of people who want to be SEALS. I guess that Sopcom game is a recruiting tool.