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Old 02-02-2008, 06:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Immigration idea. See what you think.

Ok, I am going to try to make this short and concise. Here is an idea on immigration reform. Granted this would take a complete re-vamping of the system, but I think it is a phenomenal idea. Let people come to America as freely as they please with two stipulations: 1) NO criminals. zero record. 2) NO STD's or diseases that can be wide spread. Then the immigrants have a 5 year sort of trial period. In this five years the immigrant has to learn english and prove that they are going to work and not just live off of the government. They also are not allowed to vote during this 5 years. At the 5 year mark the immigrant would take the citizen test and upon passing and meeting the above criteria would become a citizen. If not they get sent home with no second chance.

The thing of it is this... immigrants DO provide a service. They do the jobs that most Americans will not do. They bring a new sort of working class to the economy which boosts everyone else's wages.

There it is let's here it...
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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And in the process we have an over abundance of unskilled laborers, who in turn drive down the pay for low skilled labor jobs, directly hurting low skilled Americans to the benefit of the employers. Additionally unemployment rates rise dramitcally for the unskilled part of society, because the minimum wage becomes higher than the market equilibrium price, and now we've got tonnes of unskilled and unemployed people roaming our streets, and getting welfare checks.

How about we lock off all illegal immigration, and bring in immigrants in levels that we need them.

Illegal immigrants do jobs at prices lower than Americans will do them. Americans would do the jobs for the right price.

If we really were worried about poor Americans, stopping illegal immigration would be our number one priority.
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What a horrendous idea IMO.

I'm on the assumption that you're not actually fighting this war, Heheheheh

But why would you make it a 5 year process? You're making it more complicated then it needs to be. Not to mention, but considerable amounts of money are at stake just because you want to check these immigrants for STDs, etc.

How about we send out brochures on "How to Obtain American Citizenship" along with a guide to "Speaking English" and a guide to "Learning Your American History" before anything else.

We already have enough immigrants as it is, and allowing more to come here freely isn't going to make anything better. Cities over here in California are turning into ghettos, racially dominated by Mexicans (immigrants) themselves.

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Old 02-03-2008, 12:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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There it is let's here it...
This is close to what I have previously proposed.

I suggest allowing immigrants to come here legally with basically the same criteria except I would not exclude someone simply because they might have a criminal record. I would say that any crimes against persons or property would disqualify someone whereas something like getting busted for smoking pot would not.

I would also require that they either have a job promised or obtain a job within the first six months that they are in the country unless they are the dependent of someone that is working. They would have to maintain employment and could not go over six months without a job.

Of course non-citizens cannot vote so that was a moot issue.

I would required the ability to read and speak English and to know the basics of US history as a condition of future citizenship.

As you note immigrants are highly desirable for the US economy and often work lower paying unskilled jobs when they first come to the country. They do not adversely effect the pay for skilled American workers as some would like to suggest and often do work that no Americans are willing to do.

I would also provide a means for those that are already here working to obtain legal immigrant status. They are not here illegally because they want to be here illegally. They are here illegally because we, the United States, denied them a realistic means for immigrating here legally.

The real key it to creating an immigration policy that is not based upon quotas and ranking systems which are discriminatory based upon race, gender, and country of origin. Such discrimination is generally illegal in the United States and shouldn't be legal in our immigration policies.
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