Honoring Hitler - Political Forum

Voland · 03-22-2007, 06:15 AM

Many , several thousands of cities in Germany, Austria and elsewhere awarded an honorary citizenship to Adolf Hitler during the Nazi rule, and some even before. And some, like the city for the G8- summit , Bad Doberan, now have to admit that they never revoked that status and that Hitler is still registered as a honorary citizen......

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Slartibartfas · 03-22-2007, 01:18 PM

Do you know any specific example in Austria as well?

Hm perhaps we hide our honorary lists better than the Germans

dahermit · 03-22-2007, 03:33 PM

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Many , several thousands of cities in Germany, Austria and elsewhere awarded an honorary citizenship to Adolf Hitler during the Nazi rule, and some even before. And some, like the city for the G8- summit , Bad Doberan, now have to admit that they never revoked that status and that Hitler is still registered as a honorary citizen......

The catholic church never excommunicated him either.

Slartibartfas · 03-22-2007, 03:42 PM

Why should it?
Have you ever read what Jesus taught his believers?

Which murderer or dictator has ever been excommunicated from the church. And arent those the ones who would need the teachings of Jesus the most?

dahermit · 03-22-2007, 08:15 PM

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Why should it?
Have you ever read what Jesus taught his believer
Which murderer or dictator has ever been excommunicated from the church. And arent those the ones who would need the teachings of Jesus the most?

The catholic church has excommunicated many individuals for a whole lot less over the centuries. Do you really think that Hitler was likely to accept the teachings?

Slartibartfas · 03-23-2007, 03:36 AM

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The catholic church has excommunicated many individuals for a whole lot less over the centuries. Do you really think that Hitler was likely to accept the teachings?

The catholic church however in has already not excommunicated people with a similar criminal character.

In my eyes it simply makes not the slightest difference if Hitler is excommunicated post hum. Its too late. It does not matter anymore.

The Church should have refused to make a deal with the devil back then just to get an own church tax in the Reich. If it had excommunicated Hitler before he cemented his power, he might have even failed.

Thats the churches fault. If you look however what kind of catholics still remain catholic even though they did mindjuggling injustice or crimes, than Hitler is at least not in bade company.

What I wanted to say above, a honory citizenship is something different than being simply a member of the catholic church. To get the first you have to do something noble and good, for the latter you have to do nothing. The former is a sign of appreciation the latter is not. Thats why the former has to be revoked also post hum while the latter does not matter.

dahermit · 03-23-2007, 11:24 AM

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And arent those the ones who would need the teachings of Jesus the most?

Whoa! Although I agree that it is too late, what happened to your above argument?

Slartibartfas · 03-23-2007, 01:24 PM

Which argument?

Tao · 03-26-2007, 12:48 AM

Pardon me for saying........

But Hiltler was not Catholic so the church did not have any rule over him.

And of course, within Germany and Austria, besides, Jews, Communists, the infirm, mentally unstable, and criminals, Hilter rounded up and jailed thousands of Catholics, just because they were.

Slartibartfas · 03-26-2007, 03:49 PM

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Pardon me for saying........

But Hiltler was not Catholic so the church did not have any rule over him.

And of course, within Germany and Austria, besides, Jews, Communists, the infirm, mentally unstable, and criminals, Hilter rounded up and jailed thousands of Catholics, just because they were.

Why do you think Hitler was not catholic? According to his own laws he made in order to buy in the church, every babtized person had to apply for leaving the church in order to be not catholic anymore. Did Hitler do this?

What you mean perhaps is he was no believing catholic. But thats another issue. The point is that large parts of the German and Austrian people were firm believers. Hitler knew that, and therefore correctly recognized the essential importance to silence up the church. The best way to do so, was by bribing it. And so he introduced the "church tax". Something that exists btw up to the presence in Germany and Austria.