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01-16-2007, 10:26 AM
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Governor General
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France and Britain almost became one nation ?
French are still popularly often referred to as "frogs" in certain british press organs or by the "common man" in the pub, and their counterparts across the channel answer by mocking the british reputation for horrible food by calling its consumers "rosbifs". French president Chirac even once went as far as to describe the british as "untrustworty people".
Both sides will be surprised to hear what secret documents reveal from the fifties now. French prime minister Guy Mollet proposed a Franco- british political union with Queen Elisabeth II as head of state to his british colleague , Anthony Eden in 1956. Frances political affiliation with another former enemy, Germany , would probably have been of a different kind, had the proposal been realized....
Entente Tres Cordiale: France and Britain Almost Became One Nation - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News
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01-16-2007, 10:08 PM
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With the EU likely to transform into a federation in the future they may be part of one nation some day.
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01-17-2007, 05:30 AM
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I really can't see this happening. As part of a larger, federal state perhaps, but just these two? There's too much bad history between us.
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... I am surprised at your insolence in writing to me at all. You know, as I know, that I bought this constituency... may God's curse light upon you and may it make your women as open and as free to the excise officers as your wives and daughters have always been to me while I have represented your scoundrel corporation.
I have the honour to be... your obliged humble servant, Anthony Henley
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01-17-2007, 09:55 AM
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Hey Voland, and Oz probably, why do they call the Frech "Frogs". I really only heard of this fairly recently and have heard several reasons, but I don't really trust that the people who told me know what they are talking about. I figure you two should be able to explain it better than someone over here. Thanks.
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01-17-2007, 10:22 AM
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They call them frogs for the same reason the French call the british "Rosbifs".
Frog legs are a dish from some southern french regions..
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01-17-2007, 11:09 AM
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Oh, well people in the south (U.S.), myself excluded eat frogs legs also. Anyways, I thought it sounded pretty funny when I heard it. Thanks for the info.
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Neither am I the means to any end others may wish to accomplish. I am not a tool for their use. I am not a servant of their needs. I am not a bandage for their wounds. I am not a sacrifice on their altars. ... I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask no one to live for me, nor do I live for others. I covet no mans soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.
Ayn Rand, Anthem.
Common insult examples and how to avoid them
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01-17-2007, 11:13 AM
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So they must inherit many french genes  |
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01-17-2007, 02:35 PM
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Wasn't a lot of America French territory until the Lousiana purchase? So you would have inherited some of their culture.
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... I am surprised at your insolence in writing to me at all. You know, as I know, that I bought this constituency... may God's curse light upon you and may it make your women as open and as free to the excise officers as your wives and daughters have always been to me while I have represented your scoundrel corporation.
I have the honour to be... your obliged humble servant, Anthony Henley
- MPs reply to constituent, mid 1700s
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01-17-2007, 02:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother Oz
Wasn't a lot of America French territory until the Lousiana purchase? So you would have inherited some of their culture.
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Oh no, dont tell them. Especially in the American south, people might not be able to cope with this extreme "burden"  |
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01-25-2007, 05:05 AM
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It might improve English cuisine
But seriously this comes from the 1950s doesn't it? If so then it precedes the EU. I well remember President deGaulle's "non" being well publicised when Britain was seeking entry to the European Common Market as it was then called back in the early 1960s. I dunno, what with all the wars between them, the comments about Perfidious Albion and what have you, I wonder if it could have worked?
Mind you Thierry Henry has done well for Arsenal so perhaps it wasn't such a bad idea  |
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