Izzibeth

Hitler was also severely addicted to drugs. His mind was out of it and he had syphilis which was making him go insane as well. The man was a mess. A crazy mess.

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Slartibartfas

Well, the Sudetenland would have been possible as well. After all it was by vast majority German speaking. He could sell it as "Heim ins Reich" even with true arguments.

If he stopped then, he might have come away with it. But that was never a question anyway, he never intended to stop.

Wraith

For a truly appalling Hitler scenerio, think about this. If Hitler had dropped dead (heart attack, stroke, whatever..) a couple weeks after Munich. He would likely be remembered as the greatest German who ever lived.Whoever succeeded him as Fuhrer (IMO at this point and time Goering, possibly with Himmler as a power behind the throne) would be held to blame for the enevitable collapse of the nazi house of cards. Either the next Fuhrer would lead the Reich into another world war which Germany could not win, or there would be a pretty awful collapse from the economic policies which over the long run were unsustainable without war and plunder. Either way, the German people would be wailing and gnashing their teeth crying out "If only the Fuhrer had lived." He would be remembered as the man who saved Germany from the communists and reunited the German people together into one greater Reich. There would probably be streets and statues in his honor.

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defenderofthesmall

parisyann im from scotland

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defenderofthesmall

ok this post has taught me some things about hitler and about humanity and i thank all of you for that

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right wing irish boy

Yes he was a genius and a psycho. Yet he was nice to animals and loved children watch the burgdorf videos with him and Eva braun and friends, its fascinating to watch him sit with children, and his love for his dog this is a man who ordered the murder off millions though i believe Himmler had a lot to do with it as well. i believe that he taut he was in the right about the Jew's he really taut he was doing the right thing we must remember that anti semitism was very high back then.

For someone to take unemployment from 6 million down to below 500'000 is unbelievable, then to make the country military one off the most powerful in Europe as well, he basically dismantled the treaty off versailles. got rid off the communists.

These are all his great things he did but the bad things far out weight the others

Slartibartfas

Well, is this the "what he was nice at" list?

I can add one thing. He was very friendly and correct to his secretaries and I mean in the good not the sneaky way. Traudl Junge who was one of them described her impression of him while she worked for him with the words "nice uncle like"

I disagree with your second paragraph. His economic achievements based on stealing fortune from the jews and from the future of the Reich (orienting the entire economy towards a destructive war economy)

Hitler was a monster, but he was in first line a human. Thats no contradiction.
Just imagine, you work for a man, that you like... and he is responsible for the worst crimes of his time. Thats the story of Traudl Junge, if anyone is interested in this story, have a look for the interview documentary "Blind spot"

rsather139

If the Germans had taken Moscow in '41, forget it, the war would have been over. It truly was the decisive battle of WWII, and sadly it almost never gets mentioned in Western history texts.

You're telling me that the Soviets would have been able to mount an effective coordinated defense against the German Army (the best in the world at that time) when they have no government or high command? After they have just lost the largest battle in world history (and presumably most if not all of the troops that they used to fight it)? There still would have been fighting, but there is no way that the Soviets would have been able to push the Germans out if they had lost Moscow.

Keep in mind the factories that went east of the Urals were mostly still on the trains at the time of the battle of Moscow. Losing their capital would have been a death-sentence for the Soviets, and probably would have led Germany to become the victor of WWII.

Interestingly enough, Stalingrad is often viewed as the decisive battle and the one that always get mentioned. But it wasn't the first time that the Germans had been handed a major defeat, and it also didn't push the Germans out. The Soviets gained the strategic initiative for the first time, but Germany was still more than capable of launching offensive operations, and was still capable of winning the war in the Soviet Union (my own researched opinion). It wouldn't be until after the battle of Kursk that pushing the Germans out was a real possibility.

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Parisyann

Thank you and peace out Scotland (my own curiosity can sometimes freak myself out) you are welcome

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discoman

I must agree also,Hitler was a genius.If only he used his genius, and his charisma,for the improvement of Germany, and the rest of the world back in the 1930's and 1940's.What kind of world would we have today?
P.S. by the way I heard he was also a Satanic devil worshiper. Can any one confirm this?