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Old 05-07-2008, 08:07 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Here's a better article for my point.

Killer chimps fuel debate on how war began
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:37 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Yes I do, newer, better body bags, new insights on disease, huge financial boons often created by war, and yes finally new insights on food production.

You are not seeing the Yang to your Yin. . .Open your eyes.
Open my eyes?
Let me get this straight,the human race needs WAR to have newer better body bags to put dead bodies in??
Huge financial boons created by WAR,if you tell me the American taxpayer is going to even break even after Iraq I'd like to see the numbers?
If you consider that show me the numbers of the finiancialol boom of American taxpayers after Veit Nam?
America is at WAR now is the food prices going up or down?
Call it what you will Yang Yin ,up, down or sideways WAR SUCKS.
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:45 PM   #83 (permalink)
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'average' people by definition are not in the positions where they have to decide when their nation is threatened or not.
Sir you misunderstand me I am not nor would ever critisise any country or nation for defending their borders against attack.
It is the assholes that start WARS I have a problem with.
It has been said that nobody wants WAR but it is necessary.
Nobody wants WAR but it is human nature to have WAR.
Question if truely nobody wanted WAR, THEN COULD NOT WAR BECOME EXTINCT?
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:52 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Animal fight wars aswell my friends . . .

http://www.bu.edu/alumni/bostonia/20...l/pdf/ants.pdf

Maybe you should think about this instead. Evolution seems to be a favorable topic here so let get a parallel going and maybe you can see my point. . .

Start thinking of animals who are not given weapon by nature. . .
Hmmm I can't think of one.

Take your thumb along your tooth line. . .as you go from the center to the side you are going to come across one of natures most common swords.. .your incisor. You were mad to kill.

Seriously if e ever stop fighting amongst each other I don't think you are human anymore. . .You would have transcended the species as a whole.

GL I'm rooting for you, but I'm going to continue to focus on getting people to be able to be reasonably free and start there.
Sir, aren't you overlooking something?
The greatest advancement of evolution the human brain.
With the right education to know the differance between right and wrong
Right=peace
Wrong=WAR
DO YOU DISAGREE WITH THIS?
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:02 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Here's a better article for my point.

Killer chimps fuel debate on how war began
Sir, once again I remind you that the human race is considered the most intelligent on the planet,AND YET THE HUMAN RACE HAS the worst WARS, the most dead, the worst destruction,the most resources spent on killing each other than any other animal on the face of the planet.
This is not about the so called lower speices they can't help what there are the human race can.
Animals survive with what they have,humans have a brain they can survive with that or go on killing each other.
WAR SUCKS AND IS STUPID.
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:33 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Sir, once again I remind you that the human race is considered the most intelligent on the planet,AND YET THE HUMAN RACE HAS the worst WARS, the most dead, the worst destruction,the most resources spent on killing each other than any other animal on the face of the planet.
This is not about the so called lower speices they can't help what there are the human race can.
Animals survive with what they have,humans have a brain they can survive with that or go on killing each other.
WAR SUCKS AND IS STUPID.
I guess what I'm really trying to get you t see is that there is no clarity on the matter as a whole. Do all wars suck? In a sense of course they do, but also in a sense they do not. I'm just trying to get you to look at with eyes opened instead of closed.
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Call me crazy if you like but in all good there is some evil and in all evil there is some good.
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Old 05-08-2008, 03:19 PM   #87 (permalink)
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Sir although I respect your veiws on WAR.
I can not in good concence agree with them.

I am not saying the human race will stop having WAR in this decade or even in this centary, but I am suggesting we as human beings can at least discuss the possibilty of haveing no more WARS.
To at least look at some options to WAR.

To actually say that as a human race we don't want WAR,but we need WAR.
That is like a junkie saying he don't want herorin but he needs it.
Perhaps it is time the human race went to detox huh?

As for the population problem with the money we've spent on WARS we could have colonized Mars by now, and who knows maybe even further.
Instead we are on earth spending money and resourse to kill each other.
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War sucks?

I will remembr that the next time a Kuwaity girl is being raped and tortured by Sadams army like back in 91.

I'm sure the U.S could have talked them to death!

When a vicious group of murderers are raping your ass I will remember to tell my children not to save you!

War is necessary to prevent evil from spreading like wildfire
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:45 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Sir, I did not say not to defend yourself , but just a question how did Saddam's army get to Kuwait to rape and torture this Kuwatian girl?
Did not Saddam invade Kuwait is not this a form of WAR.
Ergo WAR SUCKS.

I FOUGHT FOR MY COUNTRY, AND WOULD AGAIN IF I HAD TO
Anybody that's been in combat, and knows what the real deal of war is thinks the same WAR SUCKS.

As far as the group of murders coming for me they better be ready to draw down I may go but I won't go easy, and I need no one's children to protect me.
And for the record WAR SUCKS.

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The problem is that USA use this excuse for other porposes...

If the violence in the country is out of control, it is up to their people work out on this problem, help must be requested, you may also offer it, but they have to accept it.

The culture are different around the world, these stupid wars will only end when people realise that and accept those differences.

For example, i think the whole world should atack USA and kill George Bush and his family, because they are shareholders of the companie wich sell weapons to the US, and the Bin Laden's father is also a shareholder of this companie... So, the question is: USA didn't found Bin Laden because he is very smart and can hide himself of the US satelites or because they don't want to get him?

War is just a great business for those who makes it happens.

You will be stupid thinking there is a honourable reason for war...
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