These drugs need to be banned!! - Political Forum

Wolfman · 06-08-2007, 12:47 PM

Psychiatry is Evil

held captive in scam, suit claims " ... HOW PSYCHIATRY IS MAKING DRUG ADDICTS OUT OF AMERICA'S SCHOOL ... The Christian Activist. A Summons to the Good ...

Only my Mom can throw things at me
"F" that my Mom did most of the work! she's 75% of the reason
I was made
Ritalin More Potent Than Cocaine

Ritalin Proven More Potent Than Cocaine - Nearly 10 Million Kids Drugged
... of cocaine and Ritalin, but finds that Ritalin is more potent than cocaine in ... areas of the brain most affected by drugs such as Ritalin and cocaine. ...
The Cocaine, Amphetamine/Methamphetamine, Ritalin Connection
... legitmate medical use of methylphenidate (Ritalin) is to treat attention deficit ... off of the class ll drugs such as, cocaine, morphine, speed etc. And I.D.E.A. ...

Ygorl · 06-08-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfman

Psychiatry is Evil

held captive in scam, suit claims " ... HOW PSYCHIATRY IS MAKING DRUG ADDICTS OUT OF AMERICA'S SCHOOL ... The Christian Activist. A Summons to the Good ...

Only my Mom can throw things at me
"F" that my Mom did most of the work! she's 75% of the reason
I was made
Ritalin More Potent Than Cocaine

Ritalin Proven More Potent Than Cocaine - Nearly 10 Million Kids Drugged
... of cocaine and Ritalin, but finds that Ritalin is more potent than cocaine in ... areas of the brain most affected by drugs such as Ritalin and cocaine. ...
The Cocaine, Amphetamine/Methamphetamine, Ritalin Connection
... legitmate medical use of methylphenidate (Ritalin) is to treat attention deficit ... off of the class ll drugs such as, cocaine, morphine, speed etc. And I.D.E.A. ...

"ADD"/ADHD IS a scam. It's absolute crap. Ritalin has screwed up MANY kids. Of course this is just dismissed. We have the D.A.R.E. program to keep kids off drugs. "D.A.R.E. to keep kids off drugs !" As we HAND them drugs. What a hypocritical soceity we are. Here are a couple reads for you:

The great ADHD myth | the Daily Mail

Global use of ADHD drugs nearly triples - Mental Health - MSNBC.com

Proud_Dem · 06-11-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ygorl

"ADD"/ADHD IS a scam. It's absolute crap. Ritalin has screwed up MANY kids. Of course this is just dismissed. We have the D.A.R.E. program to keep kids off drugs. "D.A.R.E. to keep kids off drugs !" As we HAND them drugs. What a hypocritical soceity we are. Here are a couple reads for you:

The great ADHD myth | the Daily Mail

Global use of ADHD drugs nearly triples - Mental Health - MSNBC.com

I somewhat disagree...
IMO, ADD/ADHT are over diagnosed.

Ygorl · 06-12-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Proud_Dem

I somewhat disagree...
IMO, ADD/ADHT are over diagnosed.

Well, I think they're fake "syndromes" used by the education czarinas to give them an excuse to drug up kids. Kids are kids. They CAN be spasstic and hyper and very poorly behaved. Much of which depends of their parents.

Their parents parenting style and what their parents FEED them.

You send a kid to school on a bowl of coco puffs (thats ca ca puffs in my book) with a lunch of chips and cookies and chemical laden, plastic wrapped "lunch meat" on wonder bread, they're going to be spasstic and/or falling asleep later in the day.

ADD/ADHD my eye. Poor diet and ignoramus parents.

emptypepsi · 06-12-2007, 06:33 PM

Either ban them all or legalize them all. Kids OD on OTC drugs all of the time.
ADHD and ADD is over-diagnosed. Ygorl is right.

Kids have a lot of energy for a reason. You have these kids that stay cooped up in a room all day playing video games, then keep them cooped up in a classroom all day, they're going to want to let it out. Part of the issue is parenting, and part of the issue is teachers who want the kids to sit down, face forward and not be a disturbance (though they will sterilize their mind with an anti-depressant to achieve this end). We are missing this incredible double message - don't do behavior modifying drugs, kids! But hey, let's start you on this dose of Ritalin to modify your behavior. So some behavior modification is fine, but others no? Who is to decide such a thing?

What a crock.

emptypepsi · 06-12-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ygorl

Well, I think they're fake "syndromes" used by the education czarinas to give them an excuse to drug up kids. Kids are kids. They CAN be spasstic and hyper and very poorly behaved. Much of which depends of their parents.

Their parents parenting style and what their parents FEED them.

You send a kid to school on a bowl of coco puffs (thats ca ca puffs in my book) with a lunch of chips and cookies and chemical laden, plastic wrapped "lunch meat" on wonder bread, they're going to be spasstic and/or falling asleep later in the day.

ADD/ADHD my eye. Poor diet and ignoramus parents.

DING! Couldn't have said it better.
(Heh, I like that - "czarinas")...

I graduated a while back from nursing school, where we learned the dangers of excess sugar and lack of nutrients in a diet, the effects it has on the body...we ALL did.

Lo and behold, 90% of the students had children and routinely served them sodas, chips, sugary cereals, and starches for the majority of their meals. They were also coming to school lamenting and astounded about these numerous parent-teacher conferences about their kids behavior.

They also were amazed at how often their kid would "just suddenly fall ill".

Ygorl · 06-12-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by emptypepsi

DING! Couldn't have said it better.
(Heh, I like that - "czarinas")...

I graduated a while back from nursing school, where we learned the dangers of excess sugar and lack of nutrients in a diet, the effects it has on the body...we ALL did.

Lo and behold, 90% of the students had children and routinely served them sodas, chips, sugary cereals, and starches for the majority of their meals. They were also coming to school lamenting and astounded about these numerous parent-teacher conferences about their kids behavior.

They also were amazed at how often their kid would "just suddenly fall ill".

It can be a bit amusing to think about sometimes.

In the garden of Eden were there any soft drinks and sugar snacks ?

If you beleive in evolution:

On the plains, roaming with the buffalo, elk and antelopes, were there herds of chocolate chip cookies and herds of pepsis roaming around ?

Either WAY (I'm agnostic and neither vision bothers me LOL) our bodies weren't constructed for this crap. Especially at early ages when they're developing.

No WONDER some kids act like little assholes at a riot LOL

emptypepsi · 06-12-2007, 07:42 PM

Exactly. Our bodies developed and evolved to take in natural foods. That's not to say manufactured foods ought to be banned, but that growing childen (most importantly) ought to be nourished with foods that are going to help ensure a healthy process of development. Cocoa puffs and Lays are not exactly what the human body is set up to work with. When a body chronically lacks essential nutrients, it shows in multiple ways. In fact, many studies support the notion that sodas may actually lower bone density. In growing children, I would not say that is a desirable thing...Kids need sufficient amounts of whole foods and cooked meals.

I have to wonder if some of our modern day 'diseases' may be what happens when the body has an overload of chemicals and processed things that the body is not naturally used to (including, but not limited to junky, processed foods/drinks, over the counter drugs, etc.)...

One can only speculate...all the while, soda sales remain constant and Mickey D's is a monster.

Ygorl · 06-12-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by emptypepsi

Exactly. Our bodies developed and evolved to take in natural foods. That's not to say manufactured foods ought to be banned, but that growing childen (most importantly) ought to be nourished with foods that are going to help ensure a healthy process of development. Cocoa puffs and Lays are not exactly what the human body is set up to work with. When a body chronically lacks essential nutrients, it shows in multiple ways. In fact, many studies support the notion that sodas may actually lower bone density. In growing children, I would not say that is a desirable thing...Kids need sufficient amounts of whole foods and cooked meals.

I have to wonder if some of our modern day 'diseases' may be what happens when the body has an overload of chemicals and processed things that the body is not naturally used to (including, but not limited to junky, processed foods/drinks, over the counter drugs, etc.)...

One can only speculate...all the while, soda sales remain constant and Mickey D's is a monster.

Yes, this is exactly what we're seeing. Of course the pharmaceutical industry is making money, hand over fist with these "diseases" and "syndromes" and not telling people what they can do LIFESTYLE and dietary wise to fix these "diseases" and "syndromes". There's no REASON for them to.

Hey, if people want to eat and live unhealthy lifestyles, it makes 'em richer. Why SHOULD they tell us what we could do to stop "needing" their drugs ?

Pop a freakin' PILL for everything

They ALSO don't tell us that these PILLS they're handing out can be just as dangerous as the LIFESTYLE we're leading.

emptypepsi · 06-12-2007, 08:50 PM

WRT pills being as dangerous -- I work in a hospital part time as a Nurse, and I can say that I see multiple readmissions every couple of months. These people are on multiple medications, and it is often something completely different from the first time, and all the while they are often switched to a more intense drug therapy. We should not have a country growing like this.

Politicians want to talk about health-care? Maybe they should, rather than sick care (which is all we have heard about). Why do we not hear about prevention from the cantidates? Why do we not hear about family responsibility, public education's role in this -- the REAL reasons these things exist?

No...drug companies and their sellers couldn't have anything to do with it.

We musn't be silly, now.