Not necessarily so, batman.

January 7, 2007 4:48 AM

There is no conclusive evidence that organic food is better for you than products grown by conventional methods, the minister responsible for the industry has said.

David Miliband, the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, described organic produce as "a lifestyle choice" and insisted that food grown with the use of pesticides and other chemicals should not be regarded as second-best.

His comments will come as a blow to the organic food industry, which is eager to obtain official recognition of the nutritional and environmental benefits which it ascribes to chemical-free farming.


'No evidence' organic food is healthier | UK Latest | Guardian Unlimited

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If you want to eat all those chemicals, be my guest, I prefer not to.

I wonder who funded this study? Any scientist knows that you can pretty much get a "study" to say whatever you want it to, all depends how you set it up.

The only thing that I trust that is organic. Is what I grow in my Garden.

As far as my Beaf and Pork goes. I raise my own just to stay away from those chemicals.

Thats nonsense.
A person who wants to tell me that pesticides do not matter in any way regarding health reasons has lost any credibility in my eyes.

Apart from pesticides, herbicides and other poisons used in agriculture I dont think however that organic food is much healthier than conventional one. But the major point about organic food is the environmental factor anyway.

And I really am infuriated on how this asshole calls, caring about the environment, in that condescending way to be a pure "lifestyle choice". That a man like this is responsible for environemntal politics is a disaster.

Bravo!
I don't care who the hell you are, pesticides build up and over time that stuff can do some real damage (even if you live a somewhat healthy life). My brother went to live in Greece for a year and tells me that the fruit there, while not as big as it is here, has much more flavor and doesn't feel clumped down with pesticides.

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unfortunately, the organic food market is a false market created by the Whole Foods Co. to sell groceries at a 30% mark up price


organics do not even necessarily mean "chemical free"...



it's another lie being sold to the american public as being healthier, and better for you -

How does the organic food sector work in the US? Is it effective, do you have common and strict organic food labels that are connected with a very tight internal and external control of its own standards?

In Europe we have a common EU regulation that describes very clearly what criteries exactly food labelled as organic, has to meet. Its a minimal requirement regulation that means member states often have even stricter oragnic food charters. But if you buy an organic product within the EU you buy a product that must not be just plain conventional stuff labelled as organic.

Fooling the customer with organic labels without meeting the requirements is illegal and punished.

Austria, and I am proud of this, is the leading nation in organic food as far as I know. At least in Europe. I dont remember exact numbers, but I think the organic farmers share is already 20% of all. And many farmers try to become organic farmers. The market is not saturated yet and constantly growing.

An interesting trend is also organic foods at our discounter shops. Those organic foods have the same labels and must meet the same criteria as others too, still they get already partially very near to the prices of conventional food in smaller retail shops.


Becoming an organic farmer is not easy, believe me. And it needs investments. In plain text this means that a conventional farmer that wants to switch organic has to apply all the regulations demanded, but has for at least 2 years still sell his products as conventional food. He has to do so, to detoxificate his land in this time. After analyzes show that pesticide levels have deconcentrated below the strict limit and succeed in other tests, they are allowed to officially sell his products as organic.
If a farmer should be revaeled to have mutually broken the organic regulations in a frauderous intend he looses his permission to sell as organic farmer. Not many farmers would be stupid enough to risk that, as then they would have invested years of work for literally nothing.

Of course organic foods are not water proof nonetheless, but I would say they are controlled better than any other food. And you won't find a more trustworthy food anywhere.

So people buy and eat organic to avoid pesticides and herbicides and chemicals.

But, here we have people claiming there's no such thing as organic, that it's all a scam.

Is there any point in continuing ?