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Old 12-07-2007, 01:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Being Politically Correct.

Personally I beleive that being Politically Correct will eventually infringe on the rights of others to a point where discrimination and segregation are rampant. Its already happening today and its only bound to get worse.

What do you think?
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Personally I beleive that being Politically Correct will eventually infringe on the rights of others to a point where discrimination and segregation are rampant. Its already happening today and its only bound to get worse.

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This makes no sense. being politically correct causing discrimination and segregation?? You really need to explain yourself better please!!
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I dont think political correctness will lead to segregation, just more people complaining about stupid bullshit followed by even more political posturing.
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Old 12-07-2007, 02:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Political correctness is a direct threat to freedom of speech if the government enforces it. In many European countries you can be tried, and convicted for speaking out against certain groups. I'm not sure how it causes segregation though...
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Old 12-07-2007, 11:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"Political correctness" and its derivatives are killing much of our education system, that's for sure!

As a college student, I see and hear about it everywhere. English majours, for example, are now often forced to read sub-par works by authors solely on the basis of "multiculturalism" (an actualization of PC). In philosophy, my majour, many universities strongly encourage incoming professors to be well-versed in "Feminist philosophy" or "African-American philosophy", as if there were an inherent merit in a philosophy's being developed by a woman or a black person.

Moreover, my grandfather, a highly qualified literature professor, was turned down from a job at a majour university EXPLICITLY because he is a white male (yes, he was told this in the interview). THAT is racism/sexism at its finest.
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Personally I beleive that being Politically Correct will eventually infringe on the rights of others to a point where discrimination and segregation are rampant. Its already happening today and its only bound to get worse.

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Isn't being politically correct mean the opposite of discrimination and segregation?

Political correctness goes way too far today, in my opinion. For example, we have a Ms. America contest for every ethnic group, thats good right? We also have a Ms. Black America contest for just African American women. No Ms. White America, no Ms. Latino America, no anything else like that. They say we only have the Ms. Black America (for my convinience Ill just call it MBA) because not many African American women make the MA contest...Well so what? Maybe the white women are just have a better score (or however they do that, im not too into it myself. If I make any misstakes please tell me) than the rest, thats not being racist. "Awww, but it's not FAIR to the African American community..." Then why don't we have a Ms Latino America? I don't see many Spainish women on that show do you?

Another thing is, where I live I see a few articles about trying to get more African Americans into baseball because its mostly white...Fine, but is there any article about getting Latinos into baseball? Football? Basketball? Nope. Nothing like that for any OTHER race.

Why? Because political correctness is so about not being discrimitive to some people that they almost forget that another exists.
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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"Political correctness" and its derivatives are killing much of our education system, that's for sure!

As a college student, I see and hear about it everywhere. English majours, for example, are now often forced to read sub-par works by authors solely on the basis of "multiculturalism" (an actualization of PC). In philosophy, my majour, many universities strongly encourage incoming professors to be well-versed in "Feminist philosophy" or "African-American philosophy", as if there were an inherent merit in a philosophy's being developed by a woman or a black person.

Moreover, my grandfather, a highly qualified literature professor, was turned down from a job at a majour university EXPLICITLY because he is a white male (yes, he was told this in the interview). THAT is racism/sexism at its finest.
Hearing this makes me sick.
It wasn't racism and sexism that caused your grandfather to not get that job, it was political correctness. If they hire a white male over a black female they would be considered racists (in their own dilusional eyes). They are so into being fair to this one area they don't to another.
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I think there is a whole slough of things that we do and progressions that have happened over the years that sort of makes us a culture of stretched truths. Some of it is from the snake-oil salesman mentality, some is from trying to not offend people, but all of it is teaching ourselves how to lie well and how to stretch truths. It's a strange thing to me.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The issue about political correctness comes from everywhere on the compass. A democrat has to talk a certain way for other democrats. The same goes for a republican, socialist, nationalist, and all others. Political correctness is a catchy phrase that offers nothing new. The pendulums of civil rights, state's rights, human rights, can swing toward the ridiculous but their fundamental arguments hold.
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The thing about Political correctness is that it is not something that emminated from government mandates, but rather, popular opinion. I will cede to any opposition that political correctness, in moderation, has it's benefits. It started out as a good thing. It's biggest issue being civil rights and similar incedents. It is to our benefit not to call people racially charged names or not to make fun of the mentally handicapped. Anything good about political correctness, more or less, ends there.

Being PC has been taken overboard to the point that it infringes on our education, our freedom of speech, and our general day-to-day life. We created a new classification of crime because of political correctness, The Hate Crime. I'm sorry, but a murder is a murder, assult is assult. It does not matter a persons race or sexual orientation, they are all people.

As it has already been stated, by myself and other posters, we are forced to learn history, both American and world history, from a multiculturalist perspective. This teaches us that all cultures are equal. The problem with that is that all cultures are not equal. If that were the case, why would people emigrate from their respective homelands, to start new lifes in a brand new country. If all cultures are equal, how come people arn't flocking to Somalia by the hundreds-of-thousands like they flock to America.

Enevitably, someone will get mad that I used America as my example and call me a nationalist or something similar, so I'll go ahead and lay this out there, I couldn't care less what you call me, I speak my mind, and that is by definition, the Freedom of Speech.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the forum, I am not saying that this is a liberal vs. conservative, democrat vs. republican arguement. That would be completely assinine and I'd be betraying myself to side with either. Instead, I present to you a challenge. To live day-to-day without being afraid of getting your feelings hurt, without being afraid of what other people may say about you. You cannot make everybody happy. As was pointed out in another thread, One company in Austrailia has said that Santa is no longer allowed to say "ho-ho-ho" as it may be considered degrading to women. Instead he must now say "ha-ha-ha." Upon hearing this, one of our posters replied something along the lines of: If Santa says "ha-ha-ha" the children might get upset because they may interpret this as Santa laughing at them.

If you think this is ok, then I beg you to ask yourself if you truely understand the gravity of the current situation. I anticipate that most of you, however, will consider this utterly rediculous. If this is a first for you as far as PC is concerned, you are beginning to understand just how dangerous being PC has the potential to be.
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