hawkins1588

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In the Western World we are often assured by our leaders that the vast majority of Muslims, both in the Islamic World and as immigrants living among us, are just good people who, like ourselves, only wish to live peacefully, raise families and enjoy economic prosperity while practicing their peaceful religion. Frankly, in the wake of 9/11, such utterances are not reassuring at all, because they are predicated more on wishful thinking as opposed to objective fact. In many respects, what facts are available would seem to indicate exactly the opposite. While it is certainly true that the vast majority of Muslims world-wide have not actively taken up armed jihad against the West, just where their ultimate sympathies lie is somewhat more difficult to discern. There are some indications, however, based on patterns of behavior, that may shed some light on this question.

Probably the most glaring example of such behavior is the deafening silence with which each new atrocity committed by an Islamic terrorist is greeted in the Muslim community. Time and again when given the opportunity to condemn such barbarism, Muslim community leaders, while usually expressing regret over the loss of life, never lose the opportunity to point out some Western policy as the root cause of the outrage. American support for Israel is most often cited in this respect. But if acts of Islamic terror are not greeted with silence, or equivocal statements of regret from the Muslim community, then dancing in the street is, as often as not, the likely response.

Another questionable behavior exhibited specifically within the Muslim immigrant communities of the West is their nearly universal unwillingness to assimilate into the society of their adopted country. Refusal to learn the language of the host country is just one example of this issue. In many of the countries of Western Europe Muslim immigrants have established enclaves of Islamic Civilization where Sharia Law is practiced in contravention of the laws of the host country. In these enclaves Muslim clerics usually preside as judge, jury, and determiner of the sentence. These same clerics, many of whom have been imported from the home country to shore up the community, are well known for preaching radical Islamic ideology from the local mosque. Often their sermons are virulent diatribes against Western liberal democracy, and in support of world-wide jihad.

Around the world, including countries in the West, the average Muslim has shown himself to be extremely susceptible to the admonitions of radical clerics. In response to almost any provocation, real or imagined, at the behest of a religious leader, the average Muslim will take to the streets where a mob mentality soon becomes the dominant behavioral factor. This scenario has been played out on Western television time and again. Typical Muslims, so-called moderate Muslims, are seen dancing in the streets upon receiving news of some violent act successfully carried out against a perceived enemy, or, in a rage, we see them burning effigies of Western leaders, usually the American President, while chanting “death to America”. Probably the most recent example of this behavior was the reaction of Muslims around the world to a cartoon depicting the prophet Mohammed in a Danish newspaper. Many were killed in the ensuing riots.

Significant populations of Muslims now reside in many Western countries. As their populations continue to grow, their potential for obtaining real political power increases. Socially isolated within their enclave communities, feeling besieged by an alien culture that they believe to be immoral and decadent, they are certain to use their new-found right to participate in a credible political process to elect to public office persons with questionable democratic credentials. Two recent examples of Muslim democracy in action illustrate this point. In 2005 Iraqis were given the opportunity to participate in free and fair elections for the first time. Instead of voting for a government of national unity, they chose to vote almost exclusively along tribal and religious lines, thus ensuring the civil strife we see today. Not long after, the Palestinians had the opportunity to elect a government that, at the very least, held some promise of achieving peace with Israel, and consequently, of acheiving the prospect of social and economic stability. Instead, the Palestinian people chose to elect a government dominated by Hamas, a radical Islamic party that advocates the complete destruction of Israel. Taken with the culturally isolated nature of Muslim communities in the West, this kind of democratic track record does not inspire confidence in the average Muslim voter.

In conclusion, increasing numbers of Muslim immigrants in the West with the potential of achieving political power, while being unwilling to assimilate into a cultural tradition they have no respect for, and, in fact loath, and at the same time being susceptible to radical Islamic ideology as expoused by their religious leaders, holds dire consequences for Western Civilization. There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim when push comes to shove. The essential nature of their religion makes it incompatible with Western ideals of tolerant liberal democracy. For any Muslim the community of the faithful transcends all other allegiances. They can never be fully trusted, and, in fact, represent a grave threat to our way of life.

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Atticus

Did you type that on an old-fashioned typewriter?

Kazikli Bey

I'm sorry, i tried reading through it but i can't, i've read enough hate-filled messages this night.

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hawkins1588

If you would read my essay carefully you will note that I have made no judgements of Muslims except to say that their religious tradition is incompatible with Western liberal democracy. Other than that I have merely pointed out the facts that they generally refuse to assimilate into European societies, that they attach great importance to the admonitions of their religious leaders, and, therefore, are easily led by same. I realize that these are general statements which, therefore, are only generally true. Generally true, however, is a significant amount of truth.

joep182

These are the same kind of things the Nazi's used to say about the jews right before they built death camps for them. I am at best suspicious of your motives.

Kazikli Bey

European, which does not mean that they do not assimilate well into western society. I know that they assimilate well over here because i have met many muslims here in Oz and all are kind, polite, wonderful people who fit well into this society which, believe it or not, is a liberal democracy. You are pointing out a small percentage which, for some reason, has been rendered the 'general' interpretation of muslim society and culture.

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Atticus

"Probably the most glaring example of such behavior is the deafening silence with which each new atrocity committed by an Islamic terrorist is greeted in the Muslim community. Time and again when given the opportunity to condemn such barbarism, Muslim community leaders, while usually expressing regret over the loss of life, never lose the opportunity to point out some Western policy as the root cause of the outrage. American support for Israel is most often cited in this respect. But if acts of Islamic terror are not greeted with silence, or equivocal statements of regret from the Muslim community, then dancing in the street is, as often as not, the likely response"


Well our Muslim leaders must be cut from a very different cloth from yours because there is no deafening silence in the UK when acts of terrorism occur. In fact the Muslim Council of Britain is very quick to put out a statement condemning such acts without ever blaming anyone except the terrorists themselves.


"Another questionable behavior exhibited specifically within the Muslim immigrant communities of the West is their nearly universal unwillingness to assimilate into the society of their adopted country. Refusal to learn the language of the host country is just one example of this issue".


Just how many Muslims do you actually know? We have had a large Pakistani community in Glasgow since the 1950s and most of them integrate perfectly well. I don't know any Muslims who cannot speak English. We are now onto our third and fourth generations and in most ways they behave just like anyone else born in Britain. I have close Muslims friends who feel they have as much in common with terrorists as I have.

Your "essay" is little more than a collection of cliches with absolutely no facts to back up your opinions.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

If you didn't even bother to read it, then it's pretty unfair of you to call it "hate-filled" now isn't it?

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Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

The essay was not long. I copied and pasted it from the word document and put it into the opening post.

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I will say that I would give the essay a low grade. It's full of non-sequiturs and conclusions that do not follow from the premises stated in the essay.

I am tempted to say it is "BS" to claim that Muslims in the United States are not assimilated. I work with one Muslim girl at my job and she is so well assimilated, I mistook her for Latino for half a year. My boss is also a Muslim, but I couldn't tell that either.

Another weak part of the essay is its comparison of a country in civil war (Iraq) to Muslim communities within Western countries. Apples and oranges anyone? How about we compare Bush to Hitler and since Bush's grandfather was a Nazi we say Bush is one too? Let's just use any old bullshit comparison.

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