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Old 10-23-2007, 01:40 AM
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It doesn't really matter what other people think of your country wherever it is if you are happy living there - good luck to you. Forget what other people say about your country, you know everybody wants to live there, that's why everybody copies you. So be flattered. (yes, before you all attack me, I know not all of you want to live in the States its called a generalization).
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:32 PM
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..........In my country, the image of Americans is very low. Mostly because people just haven't been there - who can blame them, not like it was just around the corner ^^. Generally people just, understandably, hate the Bush administration and then sort of transfer that onto their view of the american public - it is incredibly how badly a single politician can tarnish the reputation of so great a nation.

It's what many companies have learned the hard way. A good reputation takes years, even decades to establish. That good reputation can change into a bad one over night.:
If a good opinion can turn into a bad one that quickly and easily, it is likely that the people of your own nation should bear some of the responsibility for this.

You say that the hatred of the Bush administration is tranferred to the entire population of the United States. Hatred of 300 million people is a lot of hatred. I don't think there is any way to justify it.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:35 PM
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There have been at least two references by Scots to the difference between American and Scottish sense of humor. This confuses me inasmuch as my favorite comedian is Craig ("I quit drinking because I got tired of waking up soaked in my own urine... or someone else's.") Ferguson.
That's an excellent point. There are many Americans who prefer British humor - English or Scottish.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:44 PM
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Patronizing nonsense. Learn something about American life and history.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:52 PM
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Yes my impression of individual Americans is the same as Atticus but your tv portarys you as loud-mouthed and rude, and promiscuous.
The home-made gift thing, Canadians do it too. Maybe you are all more talented than I, if i tried to make something for someone, even a card, they would probably think I'd sent the rejects, can't make stuff. Hope you are feeling better now Atticus.
Loud-mouthed, rude and promiscuous.

Well, people should not assume that real human beings are the same as those you see on situation comedies or trash talk shows. That is the responsible of people all over the world - not just Americans.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:55 PM
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joep182, you are 100% accurate about your views of the country as a whole and its foreign affairs. And I agree with you 100%. But I believe this thread is asking about the people of USA no the country. And I think it is very important to point the difference. Again I am entirely behind you on your views of the USA's oligarchical government, but I believe Americans are different than their government, even though they blindly support it.
Over all Americans are very polite and considerate as far as you remain a neutral-stranger. As you get closer and more involve with them you will either be the best of friends or their worse enemy, no middle term. Americans have two and only two polarized stages for every thing; it is black or white, conservative or liberal, religious or atheist, pro-life or against-life, and so on.
Americans' obsession with materialism is the essence of their conformity on superficial information.
Americans religious-faith on their government is the product of the work of the best propagandistic media ever developed in any country (yes, better that the one Hitler put at work on Germany in the 1920s.) Therefore (and I think somebody has mention this on this thread already) Americans take any analysis, criticism (constructive or non-constructive) of their government as a personal attack and therefore as anti-patriotic. Americans would never criticize the basic structure or their democracy for any reason. They believe on "the first thing to better yourself is to acknowledge your mistakes", but not with respect to their democracy. They believe that their democracy is a God-written-on-stone pure thing that needs no criticism or analysis (kind of what Catholics think of their Virgin Mary.)
I have been married to my much-loving American wife for over nine years now. It has taken me over seven years to convince her that my criticism of our American government and the American socio-political structure is not hate for the American people but actually love and care for them. She still doubts it when we start a discussion about a new issue that she has not heard from me before.
I have to say that Americans have lost their country and they don’t know about it. Actual when you read American history (the real thing, Howard Zinn history, no the one taught in the American schools and elsewhere) American people have never had a country. It has always been on the hands of the oligarchy. Perhaps that is why they think I am crazy when I say that USA is a fascist-oligarchical state no a democracy, they don’t recall a change because it has always been the same and it has always been called ‘democracy.’
There is a great deal of prejudice and bigotry in this stunningly offensive post. I have seen anti-Amercian posts many times on various forums, and some are exceptionally repellent. This is one of them. Then you go on to say that you "love" and "care: for us.

Unbelievable - and more than a little frightening.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:59 PM
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I watched an episode of Seinfeld this morning. They were being charged with and were to spend a year in jail for not stepping in to help a hi-jack victim in a town in I think Massachusetts.
I have a question about Americans: are Americans as unfeeling as you come across on tv and are New Yorkers as rude as they say?


Come on! You really think that is supposed to reflect reality? Seinfeld is satire. I think some episodes are funny, but most of them are too similar. I also get tired of the tasteless humor.

But it is certainly not reality....
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