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04-30-2007, 03:48 PM
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Governor General
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Can a president be fired !
this should be an option us Americans so want impeachment on Bush
yet Congress has ignored his violations
10 violations I might add and if he gets impeached it's not like he can
defend his case he's already a liar
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05-09-2007, 11:55 PM
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Abrasive
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfman
this should be an option us Americans so want impeachment on Bush
yet Congress has ignored his violations
10 violations I might add and if he gets impeached it's not like he can
defend his case he's already a liar
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There should be an option such as a no confidence vote available to the people for just such an action. Of course it shouldn't just be at 50%. It should be something like 2/3rds to impeach by popular vote.
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05-10-2007, 09:36 AM
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Evil Liberal Leftist™
Join Date: May 2007
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Impeaching and removing him from office wouldn't solve anything. Rather than put the country through the trial of an impeachment proceeding, I think what's happening is going in the right direction. Now we have members of his own party telling him to his face that he has no credibility.
We're in for some interesting times...
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05-10-2007, 11:21 AM
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Viceroy
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There's no real reason to fire him, as you'll have a new President next year anyway.
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... I am surprised at your insolence in writing to me at all. You know, as I know, that I bought this constituency... may God's curse light upon you and may it make your women as open and as free to the excise officers as your wives and daughters have always been to me while I have represented your scoundrel corporation.
I have the honour to be... your obliged humble servant, Anthony Henley
- MPs reply to constituent, mid 1700s
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05-10-2007, 06:23 PM
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Conscript
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: University of Florida
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I think the aggressive checks which are often used in the parliamentary governments like Great Britain enjoy broad success and might even be appropriate in American federal government.
As above mentioned, a "vote of no confidence" would do finely. Although the executive power dynamics are different, the impeachment process has increasingly focused on matters of the Presidents’ personal lives, lesser on matters of competence and compliance.
The American system of government was designed, however, to be the exact opposite of what that would represent; swift government action and needless to say, an executive who’s allowed “prerogative powers.”
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"[It is] the people, to whom all authority belongs." --Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane
NOT! But it's nice to think that way.
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05-10-2007, 06:36 PM
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Marquis
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Actually, impeachment isn't used ENOUGH in this country. These scumbags we keep electing know very well it would be hard as hell to remove them so they don't see any real incentive to do a decent job. If they all thought they'd be out of a job after two years (or less) if their performance sucks they might do a better job.
And I disagree about putting the country "through the trial of an impeachment proceeding" as if we can't handle it. It would do the sheep out there some good if they knew the people can get rid of their leaders rather than endure years of lousy leadership.
The people need MORE pressure to involve themselves in their own governance, not less.
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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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05-10-2007, 07:04 PM
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Viceroy
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I think the aggressive checks which are often used in the parliamentary governments like Great Britain enjoy broad success and might even be appropriate in American federal government.
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Aggressive checks? Yes we have votes of no confidence, but they're only used by party members to back-stab their leaders. Still, I suppose if you feel that Republicans would vote down Bush if they could...
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... I am surprised at your insolence in writing to me at all. You know, as I know, that I bought this constituency... may God's curse light upon you and may it make your women as open and as free to the excise officers as your wives and daughters have always been to me while I have represented your scoundrel corporation.
I have the honour to be... your obliged humble servant, Anthony Henley
- MPs reply to constituent, mid 1700s
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05-10-2007, 10:00 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Apr 2007
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The Price of Gas
Anyone remember an English political comedy called "Lord Love A Duck". Lately when I pump my gas I see blood in the hose. Ruins my day. And for what? So Petrobaronial Oligarchs may maintain their wealth, power and control. My guess is that the price of gas has gone up not for the publicly stated reasons but rather because the countries that produce oil are demanding a bigger cut of the actuall value of THEIR most saught after national product. What hurts worse is that as soon as alternatives are patented the oilygarchs will gain control of them, unless of course, I'm right about what nature is about to do to us. 
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05-10-2007, 10:22 PM
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Marquis
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I have a suspicion that we are close to running out of easily recoverable crude and the monopolies want to gouge us as much as possible.
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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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05-13-2007, 03:52 PM
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Temporarily Banned
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel Goldstein
Impeaching and removing him from office wouldn't solve anything. Rather than put the country through the trial of an impeachment proceeding, I think what's happening is going in the right direction. Now we have members of his own party telling him to his face that he has no credibility.
We're in for some interesting times...
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The Republican Congress has an approval rating of about 22%, the entire Congress has an approval rating of about 35%, the same as the President. Their questioning of Bushs credibility, has no credibility. MARK
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