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Old 03-24-2008, 07:39 AM
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It is sad to see everyday over the news that wars breakout from idiots we call leaders, why doesn't the UN fix the problems? Is it because only the powerful countries which have selfish agendas hold the most power in the UN, or is it an ineffective organization just like the League of Nations? Why does humanity have to declare war on each other? Can't we be united under one government or at least have no military in every nations so we can live in peace and have prosperity. If you have an answer to such a big question such as this, please answer with full enthusiasm.
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:45 AM
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the UN is the sum of its parts. if world leaders dont want change, nothing changes.
states are still autonomous entities preocupied with their own interests, war is a means still deemed necessary to realise certain goals or beliefs of themselves.
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Old 03-24-2008, 09:51 AM
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the UN is the sum of its parts. if world leaders dont want change, nothing changes.
states are still autonomous entities preocupied with their own interests, war is a means still deemed necessary to realise certain goals or beliefs of themselves.
True, true, but war isn't neccessary, it is just the illusion of it's neccessity but why do we need it in the first place? Can't we settle our differences with more diplomacy? If we were to get rid of every military in the world, we would find prosperity.
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:50 PM
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True, true, but war isn't neccessary, it is just the illusion of it's neccessity but why do we need it in the first place? Can't we settle our differences with more diplomacy? If we were to get rid of every military in the world, we would find prosperity.
you say bevore the UN are necessary. when UN begin, UK, China,France,Russia and USA have veto powver. in 2004 UN change Secuurity conseil and add Brésil,Germany, India, japan,Egypt and SA.
this suppose t o give to more countrys power to décision and amendment to UN charte. this dont work becuase notheing change. the UN still do notheing i n décision like USA involvement in Irak war. if UN work this are good thing but as we see UN dont work.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:03 PM
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you say bevore the UN are necessary. when UN begin, UK, China,France,Russia and USA have veto powver. in 2004 UN change Secuurity conseil and add Brésil,Germany, India, japan,Egypt and SA.
this suppose t o give to more countrys power to décision and amendment to UN charte. this dont work becuase notheing change. the UN still do notheing i n décision like USA involvement in Irak war. if UN work this are good thing but as we see UN dont work.
My point exactly, the UN is nothing more than a puppet government for the free masons to use, think about it, the US has the highest power in the UN, sharing with other countries, the US has publicly acknowledged free masonry and even has the free mason seal in the dollar bill and also the dollar bill has the free masonic saying: "New World Order", they are controlling the way we think through the media, the only way to beat the free masons is to break their sphere of influence and learn to embrace peace and harmony but unfortunately there are people who support voilence rather than peace.
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True, true, but war isn't neccessary, it is just the illusion of it's neccessity but why do we need it in the first place? Can't we settle our differences with more diplomacy? If we were to get rid of every military in the world, we would find prosperity.
indeed you could say that the necessity of war is just one of many possible ways of perceiving the world. but the thing is it takes only one nation to think like this and therefore force others to also think like it in order to defend themselves.
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My point exactly, the UN is nothing more than a puppet government for the free masons to use, think about it, the US has the highest power in the UN, sharing with other countries, the US has publicly acknowledged free masonry and even has the free mason seal in the dollar bill and also the dollar bill has the free masonic saying: "New World Order", they are controlling the way we think through the media, the only way to beat the free masons is to break their sphere of influence and learn to embrace peace and harmony but unfortunately there are people who support voilence rather than peace.
Please explain your theories regarding freemasonry and its involvement in US politics. Frankly, i have found such theories regarding the mysterious group to be absurd, and as an American it is difficult to comprehend this "FreeMason Conspiracy" alluded to. In regards to the seal, and "Novus Ordo Seclorum": New World order is not an accurate translation. It really means something like "A new Order of the ages", signifying the founders' belief that following years would be an "American Age", evidence of their hopefulness, not Freemasonry.
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Please explain your theories regarding freemasonry and its involvement in US politics. Frankly, i have found such theories regarding the mysterious group to be absurd, and as an American it is difficult to comprehend this "FreeMason Conspiracy" alluded to. In regards to the seal, and "Novus Ordo Seclorum": New World order is not an accurate translation. It really means something like "A new Order of the ages", signifying the founders' belief that following years would be an "American Age", evidence of their hopefulness, not Freemasonry.
There is more evidence supporting this, you know the floating pyramid eye on the dollar bill, there is one on the French revolution rules, the one they made up when they switched to Republic after the revolution, apparantly the only way to defeat Freemasons is to break free of their influence.
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It is sad to see everyday over the news that wars breakout from idiots we call leaders, why doesn't the UN fix the problems? Is it because only the powerful countries which have selfish agendas hold the most power in the UN, or is it an ineffective organization just like the League of Nations? Why does humanity have to declare war on each other? Can't we be united under one government or at least have no military in every nations so we can live in peace and have prosperity. If you have an answer to such a big question such as this, please answer with full enthusiasm.
Well in your want to be under a 1 world government, you incite the very thing you dont want: War! Soverign nations are not going to give up their laws, for an all powerful NWO body called the UN. It would take a world war for this to occur, which would be the exact opposite of what you are seeking.

Whether you realize it or not, the UN is already sucking up power as we speak. With the whole global warming movement (the UN has proposed a global temperature ceiling tax already), the Under the Sea Treaty, the Global Poverty Act Tax, etc. All of these things are designed to give more and more power over to the UN. Ever heard of the frog in the boiling water pot idea?
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Well in your want to be under a 1 world government, you incite the very thing you dont want: War! Soverign nations are not going to give up their laws, for an all powerful NWO body called the UN. It would take a world war for this to occur, which would be the exact opposite of what you are seeking.

Whether you realize it or not, the UN is already sucking up power as we speak. With the whole global warming movement (the UN has proposed a global temperature ceiling tax already), the Under the Sea Treaty, the Global Poverty Act Tax, etc. All of these things are designed to give more and more power over to the UN. Ever heard of the frog in the boiling water pot idea?
No, but tell me what is the boiling water pot idea.
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