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01-07-2008, 09:31 AM
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Poland questions US missile shield
The moderate conservative and more europhile prime minister Tusk also brings about changes in Polands foreign policy. After mending fences with Germany and also Russia the new polish governement now openly questions one of the Bush administrations most ambitious pet projects : The american missile shield to avert an alleged iranian attack on Europe and the US is no longer sure to be built in Poland...............
Reversal for the US? Poland Questions the Missile Shield - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News
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01-07-2008, 09:34 AM
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I'm not even sure what we're doing over there building those missiles in Poland or Eastern Europe anyway. I just don't see the point. We can bomb Iran to hell if they try anything. Our offense is our defense. What do we need missile interceptors for?
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01-07-2008, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
I'm not even sure what we're doing over there building those missiles in Poland or Eastern Europe anyway. I just don't see the point. We can bomb Iran to hell if they try anything. Our offense is our defense. What do we need missile interceptors for?
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That´s what Europeans also wonder. The decision to allow its deployment on polish soil by the former Kaczynski governement was apparently a political one to make good weather in Washington but had obviously little to do with Polands or the EU´s pressing security issues. On the contrary it severed relations with Moscow. That may be one reason why they want to bury the idea.....
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01-07-2008, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
I'm not even sure what we're doing over there building those missiles in Poland or Eastern Europe anyway. I just don't see the point. We can bomb Iran to hell if they try anything. Our offense is our defense. What do we need missile interceptors for?
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You know we are curious why you need them there too.  So close not to the Iranian borders, but Russians 
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01-07-2008, 10:13 AM
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You know we are curious why you need them there too.  So close not to the Iranian borders, but Russians 
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I guess with the focus off of the erosion of Russian democracy, and the emphasis on Russian nationalism, common sense has taken a backseat in Russia.
If the US deployed 500 missile interceptors in Poland, that still would not protect us from the thousands of ICBM's Russia has.
I don't know what the Pentagon is thinking, but it is practically impossible to defend against Russian nuclear weapons without opening up a dozen missiles bases, not just one in Poland.
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01-07-2008, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by W.E.B. Du Bois
I guess with the focus off of the erosion of Russian democracy, and the emphasis on Russian nationalism, common sense has taken a backseat in Russia.
If the US deployed 500 missile interceptors in Poland, that still would not protect us from the thousands of ICBM's Russia has.
I don't know what the Pentagon is thinking, but it is practically impossible to defend against Russian nuclear weapons without opening up a dozen missiles bases, not just one in Poland.
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November 27, 2007: Although Russia has announced ambitious military construction and rebuilding programs, when you do the math, you realize that the Russian military is still in decline. For example, Russia's aging ICBM force, which has gotten little money in the last decade, is still wasting away. This despite some new missile construction. Over the next decade, Russia's ICBM forces will decline from nearly 700, to under 200. Similar declines are underway for ground, naval and air forces. Aiding this collapse is the continuing corruption, particularly when it comes to procurement. All the stealing means that the military pays more than it should, for less than it is supposed to get. This is one reason for increasingly hostile diplomacy in response to NATO forces on Russia's borders. After three ruinous invasions in the past two centuries, such paranoia ("of course NATO is planning to invade us") has become acceptable in Russia. The decline in Russian ICBM forces is one reason Russia is so opposed to the anti-missile system the U.S. is building in Eastern Europe (to protect Europe from Iranian ballistic missiles.)
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/russ.../20071127.aspx
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01-09-2008, 10:05 AM
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I think Europe doesn't need this missile shield. In the contrary, the missile shield could be rather a danger for Poland and Europe.
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04-20-2008, 03:45 PM
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Now Czechs seem to agree to install this shield on their land.
United States, Czech Republic agree on missile defence radar - Forbes.com
Poles are rather happy with this situation. Those anti-missiles were really poisoning our relations with Russia, and we had no real advantages of having the shield here (except perhaps some kind of gratefulness of USA).
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04-22-2008, 02:26 PM
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Just as we're slowly patching up with Russia, USA go and do this, keep of our land lol
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04-22-2008, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NaiveGirl
You know we are curious why you need them there too.  So close not to the Iranian borders, but Russians 
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this are not good thing t o have missiles very closs.Canada do stupid thing and agree with USA t o put missiles on west border. then in février this year, the PM h e agree with Bush to have USA militaire i n Canada. this are suppose t o make canadiens b e safe.
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