Immigration Problem--europe - Political Forum

CHUQ · 10-21-2006, 01:04 PM

Would seem that the US is not the only target for immigration.

http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/2530.cfm

Voland · 10-23-2006, 07:19 AM

You didn´t know that ?

http://www.euractiv.com/en/justice/i...article-117508

Voland · 10-23-2006, 07:40 AM

Illegal immigrants reach Europe mainly over four routes. One is from the coast of Senegal to the Canary Islands , another one via Morocco across the strait of Gibraltar, a third from Lybia or Tunisia to the Italian Island of Lampedusa or to Malta and the last via Turkey, where the many Aegean Islands make it possible sometimes to sneak through the greek border controls. Until a couple of years ago many had also been from eastern Europe but since ten states joined the EU in 2004 these are also fortifying their borders toward their eastern neighbours.
The discussion in Europe is suffering from a significant level of dishonesty, since illegal immigrants are doing the kinds of work Europeans don´t want to do or at least not for something like three/four Euros or something an hour.
Illegals work on spanish plantations, french wineyards or german construction sites and some people are obviously making a lot of many with them. Also they are profitable on another sector. The amount of money illegal Africans in Germany alone send back to their home countries to support their families is approximately three times as much as the whole sum Germany is giving in development aid, and unlike the latter in may cases this is real help.
We can´t seal ourselves off from these countries and so we need a constructive approach and not hot air rethoric from right wing populists or meaningless efforts where a couple of EU customs officials and borderguards picks people in nutshells from the sea, and in a week they are back anyway....

CHUQ · 10-24-2006, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voland

Illegal immigrants reach Europe mainly over four routes. One is from the coast of Senegal to the Canary Islands , another one via Morocco across the strait of Gibraltar, a third from Lybia or Tunisia to the Italian Island of Lampedusa or to Malta and the last via Turkey, where the many Aegean Islands make it possible sometimes to sneak through the greek border controls. Until a couple of years ago many had also been from eastern Europe but since ten states joined the EU in 2004 these are also fortifying their borders toward their eastern neighbours.
The discussion in Europe is suffering from a significant level of dishonesty, since illegal immigrants are doing the kinds of work Europeans don´t want to do or at least not for something like three/four Euros or something an hour.
Illegals work on spanish plantations, french wineyards or german construction sites and some people are obviously making a lot of many with them. Also they are profitable on another sector. The amount of money illegal Africans in Germany alone send back to their home countries to support their families is approximately three times as much as the whole sum Germany is giving in development aid, and unlike the latter in may cases this is real help.
We can´t seal ourselves off from these countries and so we need a constructive approach and not hot air rethoric from right wing populists or meaningless efforts where a couple of EU customs officials and borderguards picks people in nutshells from the sea, and in a week they are back anyway....

It seems that the issue are very similr to US and if the EU is anything like the US, a lot of talk and very little real progress on solving , what they see as a prob.