Hijab Yes, Crucifix No - Political Forum

superbug · 10-16-2006, 10:25 AM

British Airways Uniform: Hijab Yes, Crucifix No
Looks as though Great Britain is bending over for Islam. And this isn't the first example, another would be a little girl that had to have her pass port photo re-done because it may offend Muslims. I'll have to do some digging for that story.

Slartibartfas · 10-17-2006, 06:54 AM

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British Airways Uniform: Hijab Yes, Crucifix No
Looks as though Great Britain is bending over for Islam. And this isn't the first example, another would be a little girl that had to have her pass port photo re-done because it may offend Muslims. I'll have to do some digging for that story.

BA has not banned the Crucifix, nor any other religious symbol no matter which, as long as it as worn underneath the uniform. As the hijab hardly could be worn underneath the uniform there has been made an exemption.

Be aware, BA banned no religious symbol, every religous person can wear them but they dont like it to see that you show it. And in fact its a riddle for me how a religous person should be set in fron of unsolvable problems due to this. With a sole exception, ortotodox muslims could come into serious problems to act accoridng to their believes. And thats the difference! A christian has no problems with wearing his cross underneath the uniform, ergo with following his believe, a muslim woman in contrast would have to choice, either her conviction, or her job.

Having that said, I oppose that BA-policy as it should be open to anyone to show decent signs of their religion as long as its no direct insult on others, or hinders at doing the work properly. (from a technical perspective).

superbug · 10-17-2006, 07:08 AM

If the crucifix can't be worn, then neither should hijab. Enough of this bending over for Muslims!

Slartibartfas · 10-17-2006, 07:40 AM

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If the crucifix can't be worn, then neither should hijab. Enough of this bending over for Muslims!

Have you read my post?
If the christian tradition would be to wear a cross like a hat, it would be allowed also.

BA called all its employes to wear their religous symbols underneath their uniform as long as this is possible. Show me how you put a hijab below the uniform and the second afterwards I am fully on your side that there should be no exception.

superbug · 10-17-2006, 07:42 AM

If you can't wear a hajib where it can't be seen, then don't wear it. Like I said, enough of the bending over for Muslims.

Slartibartfas · 10-17-2006, 08:24 AM

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If you can't wear a hajib where it can't be seen, then don't wear it. Like I said, enough of the bending over for Muslims.

Wearing a cross underneath the uniform is not the slightest problem if you have ortodox christian convictinos. Its completely insignificant if others can see it or not.

Wearing the hijab or not makes a huge difference for an ortodoxe Muslim, an existantial difference that goes so far as they see themselves forced to give up the job.

Show me a single Christian that gives up its job at BA because it cant handle it that its holy sign of christianity, the cross can not be seen by anyone else during work anymore.

If you still cant see the difference ...

superbug · 10-17-2006, 08:27 AM

Look, They can fold it up and put it in the pocket. If they don't like it tough. What part of that is hard to understand?
I'm sick and tired of Muslims crying up a storm because they can't wear this or they don't like seeing that. That religion of violence just chaps my ass.

Slartibartfas · 10-17-2006, 08:41 AM

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Look, They can fold it up and put it in the pocket. If they don't like it tough. What part of that is hard to understand?
I'm sick and tired of Muslims crying up a storm because they can't wear this or they don't like seeing that. That religion of violence just chaps my ass.

You have not really understood the concept of a hijab or a veil, have you?

superbug · 10-17-2006, 08:44 AM

I don't care. I also don't like people bending over backwards for them.

Slartibartfas · 10-17-2006, 08:55 AM

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I don't care. I also don't like people bending over backwards for them.

If one does not care about something allthough he opposes it there the term "Ignorancy" is often used.

Might I ask you if you are in favour of freedom of religion and belief?

Here in Europe its a Human Right you can go to court for.