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05-10-2008, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PayingAttention
One could equally say that America produced the likes of the KKK, Bonnie and Clyde, Al Capone.
Or that Gemany produced the likes of Adolf Hitler or Heinrich Himmler.
Or that England produced the likes of Jack the Ripper.
None of these historical facts contribute much to an understanding of the respective countries in the present day.
Is that a positive difference or a negative?
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Yes,paying Attention I see were your going with this,but the kkk,Bonnie and Clyde,Heinrich Himmler and Jack the Ripper, were not rulers of a major super power, as Putin, and Stalin, were. I tell you the Soviet leaders run their country like gangsters.It is a well known fact that the Russian mafia, has a tremendous influence on the Russian Police, and the Government.
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05-10-2008, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PayingAttention
He is popular among the ordinary working people because he reigned in the unbridled capitalist corruption and brought economic stability to Russia.
He understands Maslov's Hierarchy of Needs very well. Nobody is really interested in voting when they can't buy enough food and they just lost their pension.
I would suspect that most ordinary working Russians don't really give a damn about democracy.
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i dont think Putin he understnd anything abaout Maslov.Maslov will d o like Putin tell him.many économiques problem Russia have are becuase o f Putin like économiques problem i n USA are becuase o f Bush.i dont like Bush o r Putin and i dont see notheing for democracy.
Last edited by Svante; 05-10-2008 at 09:39 PM.
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05-16-2008, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Kazikli Bey
Yes, but in terms of the question. Would you consider him an obstruction to a democratic Russia, or democratic in terms of the Russian idea of democracy?
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He's elected democratically (in the Western conception of the word), as the majority wanted him to be a president (1 term) and then to continue his politics (2 term), so I'd say he's democratic in terms of the "Russian idea of democracy", which is often linked with the conception of the "sovereign democracy". In one of his speeches Putin spoke of "sovereign democracy" term. He said smth like that: sovereign democracy is a controversial term, as sovereignty is something that speaks about the quality of our relations with the external world and democracy is our internal state and the inner content of a society. Countries which are pleased and proud to say they are sovereign, are few and far between worldwide. All the other depend either on one another or a leader of a block to a certain and significant extent. However, Russia is a country which cannot exist without protecting its sovereignty. It will either be independent and sovereign or, most likely, there will be no such country at all. So in the Russian idea of "sovereign democracy" "sovereignty" is stressed.
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05-22-2008, 04:42 AM
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I also like Putin, he can take Russia to be a super power again.
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07-08-2008, 02:54 PM
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Wolf in sheep's clothes
Russia will never change (into a democracy), it seeks world domination
The Soviet Union broke an agreement of the Potsdam Conference, namely its undertaking not to mark its western borders and not to incorporate Koenigsberg and adjacent area into the USSR in advance of the final peace settlement, which, in fact, never took place. The neighbouring states of Lithuania, Poland and Germany, as well as the Scandinavian states, are deeply interested in the demilitarisation of the region. The Balts welcomed the US Congress resolution demanding the withdrawal of Russian troops from the region, which was unanimously passed in 1996. However, almost nothing appears to have happened since, as the Russian army is still there and the pollution of the Baltic Sea still continues on a critical scale. The international community, particularly the European Union, whose economic aid to Russia totalled more than ?1,1b [$1b], must attach conditions to this aid to require that Russia withdraws its army and security forces from the region.
NO LEGAL DOCUMENT EXISTS GRANTING KOENIGSBERG REGION TO RUSSIA
Russia has never apologised for what it did there - exterminated almost
2,000, 000 Germans, Jews and Lithuanians. Renamed all cities and rivers/lakes in Russian names, destroyed historical buildings and turned the land into crime/drug/AIDS zone amassing huge military presence at the same time.
It poses threat and danger to neighboring countries and the EU.
If Russia is trying to have a human face - why it has not recognised the atrocities it commited after WWII? It portrays itself as a democracy but invests new oil & gas dollars into its military machine and massive attack of propaganda through its media channels - one to the West, another to Baltics and yet another to Ukraine, etc. IS THIS A PEACE SEEKING NATION?
How about Chechnya?
This country is full of lies and the Western countries have made a sad record in believing those lies
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07-18-2008, 11:02 AM
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Russia has enough democracy for it's economical and political growth, even more than some other "fully democratic" countries.
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Originally Posted by Justice for all
Russia will never change (into a democracy), it seeks world domination
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Not more than USA for example
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