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Old 04-09-2008, 04:58 PM
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Greek neo fachism

what can i say.NATO summit in Bucharest was complete disaster.it was finnaly proven that democracy doesn't exists.tell me,you europian hipocrits ,how in 21'st century is denied someones right to chose their name,and be supported by the "greatest democraties" of europe. it's clear as a day that grece is trying to wipe macedonia and macedonians of the face of the earth. tell me how can grece be the only country in the world that doesn't have a minorities.
i want to know is everyone in europe blind or stupid or what?
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Macedonia will live forever despite the fachist greek neighbour.
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:37 PM
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You said: "you europian hipocrits"

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Old 04-09-2008, 05:42 PM
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what can i say.NATO summit in Bucharest was complete disaster.it was finnaly proven that democracy doesn't exists.tell me,you europian hipocrits ,how in 21'st century is denied someones right to chose their name,and be supported by the "greatest democraties" of europe. it's clear as a day that grece is trying to wipe macedonia and macedonians of the face of the earth. tell me how can grece be the only country in the world that doesn't have a minorities.
i want to know is everyone in europe blind or stupid or what?
greetings from Macedonia
Macedonia will live forever despite the fachist greek neighbour.
i dont think europe is responsible for this incedent, greece has played this card by itself..
it was a low move of greece though i agree.
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Old 04-09-2008, 06:24 PM
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what can i say.NATO summit in Bucharest was complete disaster.it was finnaly proven that democracy doesn't exists.tell me,you europian hipocrits ,how in 21'st century is denied someones right to chose their name,and be supported by the "greatest democraties" of europe. it's clear as a day that grece is trying to wipe macedonia and macedonians of the face of the earth. tell me how can grece be the only country in the world that doesn't have a minorities.
I won't comment everything you said but your criticizing Greece and democracy... I find it funny. Are you aware that Greece implemented the first democracy in Europe?

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I won't comment everything you said but your criticizing Greece and democracy... I find it funny. Are you aware that Greece implemented the first democracy in Europe?
You find it funny but it's realy sad. so called "cradle of democracy" is actualy the bigest and only xenofobic country in the world. do you know that in grece live 1 million albanians,half a million macedonians and also that muck turks,but the official attitude of the goverment of grece is there are none minorities.in grece there are "only greek".somethink to think abouth,a parisyann?
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:45 AM
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Clearly I dont know much about this issue but it reminds me there's a French province called Bretagne/Brittany as well as another country named Grande Bretagne/Great Brittain and it's no big deal here. Not sure that's what you expected from me.

Not sure Greece is the only xenophobic country in the world either would it be.
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:56 PM
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Clearly I dont know much about this issue but it reminds me there's a French province called Bretagne/Brittany as well as another country named Grande Bretagne/Great Brittain and it's no big deal here.
Exactly.And somehow Grece made it big issue abouth Macedonia's name.My point is i can call my self whatever i wont,and no one can take it away my name.And yet Grece is doing exatly that and they have support from the europeans. Isn't that a low doble standard for europe union. Actualy isn't even a standard but yet it exists.can someone explain me why? maybe you parisyann!
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Old 04-14-2008, 04:18 AM
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Exactly.And somehow Grece made it big issue abouth Macedonia's name.My point is i can call my self whatever i wont,and no one can take it away my name.And yet Grece is doing exatly that and they have support from the europeans. Isn't that a low doble standard for europe union. Actualy isn't even a standard but yet it exists.can someone explain me why? maybe you parisyann!
what you say about the eu supporting it is simply not true: greece veto'd by itself, the eu has nothing to do with the greek position here. the eu is not supporting the greek stance.
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Old 04-14-2008, 05:15 AM
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Greece always had problems with different countries.In this Macedonia case I think Greece is right.Milosevic started a conflict which resulted new borders and Greece is afraid of facing with Great Macedonia.
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Old 04-15-2008, 04:19 PM
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In this Macedonia case I think Greece is right.Milosevic started a conflict which resulted new borders and Greece is afraid of facing with Great Macedonia.
Do you think that the country of 11 million people,and NATO and EU member,is affraid of 2 million people country.that's realy funny man. Macedonia is strugling to prosper,and in the constitution is written that we don't have any teritorial claims to other countries. so how can a great country like Greece is affraid of small and week country like Macedonia?
I'll tell u from what is Greece affraid. After the civil war in Greece in 1946 - 1949 they did a massive exodus to the Macedonians leaving there.they confiscated all their land and treat them like slaves. Only fear Greece has is that if they recognize Macedonians as minority,it's their obligation to return all confiscated land. And those assets my friend worth approximatly 10 billion dollars.
As for the other issue.You said that Greece is affraid of Great Macedonia.It's a fact that after the Balkan wars 1912-13 Macedonia was devided by neighbouring countries. Greece claimed the largest part. As a Macedonian that fact is hurting me but that's in history. In the present it's wery foolish to think that we can bring it back.Yes they are still nostalgic nationalists but they are simple people who are driven by passion not by knoledge.And after all we are peacefull people,not trying to conquer or something stupid like that.So i say that Greece can sleep well now knowing that occupation from Macedonia will not happen
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