Russia have most influence i n europe - Page 2 - Political Forum

Svante · 04-07-2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lg11

Russia is "influential" because they have a shitload of nuclear weapons and a large population. Substract the nuclear weapons and its a third world country with with vast natural resources but nothing else. Whats the point of this thread, anyways ?

The point of my thread is yes, Russia has many nuclear weapons. Lots of them. Russia has a lot of power not only because of these weapons but because of the oil. Russia is the main producer of oil for China and China have a lot more people than Russia. All these people are buying cars now because they can efford them. China has a lot more cars than Russia. Cars run on oil. Don't you think this make Russia very powerful?

Svante · 04-07-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mairead

Russia may exert some power, but sorry, I think the USA exerts even more.

What kind for power are you talking about. The only power I see here is economic power from both Russia and USA used in trade agreements with China. I think Russia exert more power here because China get their oil from them. Oil is energy. Also, I think Putin are better exerter than Bush. I like the word exert. I never use it before. Thanks.

Svante · 04-07-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTeK

It's energy, namely natural gas, that makes Russia so powerful. 30% of the EUs energy needs and 44% of the EUs natural gas consumption is covered by Russian imports. Russia has the power to completely shut down the entire EU at will. Of course, this would be counter-productive for it as well, but still, the power is there.

Don't you think oil are more important energy than natural gas? Most cars and machines in factory use oil.

mairead · 04-08-2008, 06:40 AM

I actually don't think Russia exerts more or even any power over Europe.

AzTeK · 04-08-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Svante

Don't you think oil are more important energy than natural gas? Most cars and machines in factory use oil.

Most certainly, but we are talking about Russia here, not energy in general. While 44% of the EUs natural gas comes from Russia, "only" around 21% of EUs oil comes from Russia. So Russia pretty much dominates "our" gas imports, while it's merely a big player in our oil imports.

Comrade Hentzler · 04-09-2008, 10:07 PM

LOL! Putin is much more of an expert than Bush!

An interdependent world... sounds like Revelations...

No, right now I think Americans are being very foolish, as I've been discussing in another forum they feel far too isolated so the US debt continues to rise drastically and the American Army, the largest consumer of oil in the world, goes to war for just that...

What power is the US exerting over China? If anything China is exerting over the US economy as more and more the American imports have a ,"from: China with Love" sticker on the crate...

prezident · 04-13-2008, 06:17 AM

great influence = GAZPROM.

Tatiana_Kuznetsova · 04-14-2008, 10:41 AM

I agree that the answer to the question whether or nor Russia is powerful depends on the sens given to the words "power" and "influence". But still the position of RF has an influence on the the European and world agenda. Firstly, because economically it has resources (also agreed in this point Russia also is interdependent from Europe, but having say that we should take into consideration the fact resources are something that may end and the growing need in these resources appeared in the East as well as in the West) and a growth potential. Secondly, nominally Russia "kept" the positions of the USSR in all key world organisations and then nlarged its diplomatic possibilities by entering other organisations and "forums", thus comes potential political influence. And at last, nukes, of course, this is still a very important factor.

Svante · 04-14-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tatiana_Kuznetsova

I agree that the answer to the question whether or nor Russia is powerful depends on the sens given to the words "power" and "influence". But still the position of RF has an influence on the the European and world agenda. Firstly, because economically it has resources (also agreed in this point Russia also is interdependent from Europe, but having say that we should take into consideration the fact resources are something that may end and the growing need in these resources appeared in the East as well as in the West) and a growth potential. Secondly, nominally Russia "kept" the positions of the USSR in all key world organisations and then nlarged its diplomatic possibilities by entering other organisations and "forums", thus comes potential political influence. And at last, nukes, of course, this is still a very important factor.

this are becuase the leadrship o f Vladimir Putin. he are intelligent and powverful leader. you say nucléaires are important factor. i have queston abaout this.

in februar, Bush and Harper meetin Ottawa t o discuss the
posisjon of NORAD. from this time USA and Canada there make agreement t o share the militare. Harper he dont make annoncer o f this becuase he know Canadiens dont want this. General Dumais he sign this agreement with USA. d o you think use of nucléaires årsak t o make this agreement t o share militare with USA and Canada?

Tatiana_Kuznetsova · 04-21-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Svante

d o you think use of nucléaires årsak t o make this agreement t o share militare with USA and Canada?

Sorry for not answering for a long time

I'm not well informed on the topic, but as far as I know the NORAD already includes nukes, practically since its appeareance or may be somewhen around that times. Since 60 for instance the US have the right to place nuke arsenal and antimissile systems on the Canadien territory.