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Old 11-23-2007, 12:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Texas Court Upholds anti fetus killing law

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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - Texas laws allow the killing of a fetus to be prosecuted as murder, regardless of the fetus' stage of development, but they do not apply to abortions, the state's highest criminal court has ruled.
Wednesday's ruling by the Court of Criminal Appeals rejected an appeal by Terence Lawrence, who said his right to due process was violated because he was prosecuted for two murders for killing a woman and her 4- to 6-week-old fetus.
The court ruled unanimously that state laws declaring a fetus an individual with protections do not conflict with the U.S. Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade ruling that protects a woman's right to an abortion.
"The Supreme Court has emphasized that states may protect human life not only once the fetus has reached viability but 'from the outset of the pregnancy,'" the court said. "The Legislature is free to protect the lives of those whom it considers to be human beings."
Lawrence was convicted of capital murder and sentenced to life for the 2004 shooting death of his girlfriend, Antwonyia Smith, and the couple's unborn child. Lawrence shot Smith after learning she was pregnant with his child, according to court documents.
Lawrence's appeal argued that he should not have been prosecuted for the death of the fetus because it was not viable. Supreme Court precedent in abortion cases has established that states have no compelling interest to interfere before a fetus would be old enough to live outside the mother's womb, he said.
However, the court said abortion precedent is based on the premise that a woman wants to have the procedure.
"The 'compelling state interest' test, along with the accompanying 'viability' threshold, has no application to a statute that prohibits a third party from causing the death of the woman's unborn child against her will," Presiding Judge Sharon Keller wrote.
I wonder how this will go?

Personally, I have always been in favor of laws like this, including Lacy and Connor’s Law. I don’t see how people can claim to support a woman’s right to choice and not support a law that makes it a crime to kill a fetus against the mother’s will (against her choice). If it’s a choice, fine, but then don’t we have to respect either choice the woman makes?

During the debate over Lacy and Connor’s law I always asked people if they were pro-choice. Once they said yes I asked them if they favored Lacy and Connor’s law. If they said no I would reply that they are not pro-choice, rather they are pro-abortion. I really do think that is true.
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The state allows the execution of a retarded person convicted of a crime. I suppose it also technically allows the execution of a fetus that is convicted of a crime, but let's be honest, the wheels of justice move to slow to convict and execute in less then 9 months time.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If it wasn't for ZZ Top, Buddy Holly and Jayne Mansfield all hailing from Texas I would have to say that Texas is simply a lost cause.

Is anyone really surprises that an ultra conservative law passed in an ultra conservative state?
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Real insightful comment above. Blanket statements sure are fun, aren't they?

Anyway, to those who know anything about Texas or wish to actually know anything: Texas is actually getting more progressive with it's younger generation. I have lived here for nearly eight years, and my Dad was raised here originally. He sees huge changes in the political leanings of the younger generations. Of course it's going to be more conservative in comparison to Illinois or New York, but central texas is an exceptionally good example of this shift.

Having said that, I do agree with the idiocy of this move.
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