stevedun1971

Whats the general view on islamic people basically getting what they want when they want? ie: I dont have to take my headress off at customs.. we are being victimised so I/we will sue your government.. I HATE IT ALL
In 30 years time we will be governed by a muslim unless we take action now!!

Brother Oz

I think that in some ways exceptions are made for them that shouldn't be, but mostly it's just exaggeration.
Muslims don't get "what they want when they want".
How many people have you actually heard of who sued the government because they were told to take off their head covering at customs?

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... I am surprised at your insolence in writing to me at all. You know, as I know, that I bought this constituency... may God's curse light upon you and may it make your women as open and as free to the excise officers as your wives and daughters have always been to me while I have represented your scoundrel corporation.
I have the honour to be... your obliged humble servant, Anthony Henley
- MPs reply to constituent, mid 1700s

Caltex

The Hate speech laws are ridiculous, they are plain old censorship and thought crime laws. Free speech is being shot down in favor of political correctness. The British peoples civil liberties are being violated.

Brother Oz

We have never had free speech in this country, and a good thing too. We can't have people going around inciting hatred, it destabilises society. Do you really want to have extremist Muslim preachers going around saying "Jews are evil, Christians are evil, they are servants of Satan!" or something like that?

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... I am surprised at your insolence in writing to me at all. You know, as I know, that I bought this constituency... may God's curse light upon you and may it make your women as open and as free to the excise officers as your wives and daughters have always been to me while I have represented your scoundrel corporation.
I have the honour to be... your obliged humble servant, Anthony Henley
- MPs reply to constituent, mid 1700s

Aya

No. You're not getting victimised but many see themselves as victims without caring about the background.

If this would be the case, what would be so worse about it?

I have to agree that hate speech laws are a good thing. But to control all people and see them as "potential" terrorists is violating the fundamental rights.

Ghostdog

However, I do think that its a freedom of religious rights
to be asked to remove your headdress or garments.
I can't raise holy hell about what goes on in England,
but I can speak up & out about my rights being violated
here in America.

As far as getting what one wants is just a wannabe dream,
due to the fact that NOTHING is free here in the USA, and
I must not be understanding the value of your statement
Steve.

First you are complaining about taking your head dress off,
and then you turn around making the above quote. Take
action against who (Which Government)?
Brother Oz, That was a very good reply and question
which made alots of senses. Caltex, are you and Steve
close kin? Now here you go talking about British folks
violations being violated. Here in America most citizens
rights is being violated 24/7, and I can't seem to get
the point you are trying to make. Would someone please
help me to see the light.

Not ALL Muslims is extremist or terrorist. I am a Muslim since birth(born
and raised) here in America, but my Grandparents was born and raised
in Egypt, and coming to America in the earlie 1950s there is a bunch of
evil people in all religions and race.

I have seen the words Hate Speech mentioned many times on this
thread, but where is the hate speech?, and are we saying that
Rights Violations...Hate Speech?

Since 9-11 I have traveled to Iraq, Iran, My homeland, and other
Middle Eastern countries. I know that I will be most likely to be
searched entering and leaving a country. So why should I set my
self up to be harrassed? People should seperate the means of a
terrorist & extremist from being a plain human being.

Aya

Hate crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That caused a lot of trouble: http://www.swastika-info.com/images/...Hakenkreuz.jpg

A student got accused because he wore a t-shirt with a cancelled swastika but then got acquitted. Cause the wearing of Nazi symbols is anticonstitutional but in fact it was against Nazis. If I remember right they're investigating now a mail order company that sells anti Nazi symbols.

I would give a lot for travelling to Iran...

In my opinion some controls are acceptable. But what I'm really afraid of are the internet controls etc. Someday they abandon the right of freedom of assembly because a terrorist could hide in the crowd.

twoswordali

You are controled by Christian society now! And what the f##@ is wrong with being governed by a Muslim? Look at Spain, it was ruled by Muslims for 900 years with Christains, Jews living in peace until the crusades. Came in and killed everyone,and we are still under the crusade rule if you study that you will see. How come when a NUN goes to the airplane she does not take off her scaf?Correct Muslim government would be better for you than your present government.

Sophia

an Islamic government would apply Islamic laws and it means there will be stoning for adultary, cutting off hands for stealing, lashes for drinking and lots of executions. It's not a fiction it can really happen, no joking.

I too think hate speach laws are good but not enough. seeing and judging people as terrorists just for the religion they follow also is unwise but alowing the radical muslims giving lecture about Jihad for muslim youth, as I saw in CNN takes place even in europe, is dangerous and wrong and I don't understand why they're not being stopped.

Sophia

If you did, make sure you'll visit Esfahan and Shiraz and have a Chelo Kabab in Tehran