Should college students be allowed to carry guns on college grounds? - Political Forum

Hotduck · 09-03-2007, 04:54 AM

Yes or No

I say yes my argument is that if a collage student has a permit to carry a gun why not let them? It’s not like someone like the killer at VT would be stopped from bringing a gun in the school because the school doesn’t allow guns but someone might indeed think twice if they know that other people in that school might be able to defend themselves.

To me it comes down to this if you think that there are more good people in the world then bad you have no problem with people being armed to protect themselves from the few but extremely deadly bad people in the world. However, to me if you do not trust most people to do the right thing then you would have a big problem with people with a permit carrying a gun to protact themselves.

Also this whole idea of a evil killer being stopped because the school is a NO GUN ZONE is naiveté and in the case of VT deadly.

What do you think?

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 09-03-2007, 05:40 AM

It will introduce a "murder rate" statistic onto college campuses that hitherto did not exist. Probably will increase the suicide rate as well.

J.Locke777 · 09-03-2007, 05:46 AM

I think that a possible solution may be to have like a type of "School protection club" where select students are given military like training, and issued a weapon. They could be like a free police force, but students too. Although I admit, I'm not to keen on the subject, nor am I comfortable with the idea of allowing guns on campus like this.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 09-03-2007, 05:59 AM

I have never before heard of an incident like the one on VA happening anywhere else. Essentially, why fuck up all the other 1,000 colleges in the US because of what happened at one? What we need is more decisive action in the pyschiatric division of the school and some kind of disaster protocol for mobilizing the entire school and getting them into their rooms when some shit like this happens, and locking down the entire school and mobilizing the local police.

J.Locke777 · 09-03-2007, 06:36 AM

I actually like Web's proposal better, you're bound to have screw-ups (actions and people) on occaision, we should prepare our students to deal with them better, (ie. better emergency and disaster plans, better psyche evaluations and more active counselors, etc...). Another tragedy like VT will happen again eventually, so how about we better prepare our nations students to know how to act in the event of another incident.

Xotica · 09-03-2007, 10:02 AM

I'm not too thrilled with guns on campus unless it's West Point.

micfranklin · 09-03-2007, 12:18 PM

I think J. Locke and WEB's ideas sounded the best. Right away I wouldn't trust a whole bunch of college students with guns on them on campuses, but maybe giving the option to the professors would be better.

However, anywhere else I'd be okay if a college junior was allowed to carry a glock on him.

Bradgriff · 09-03-2007, 01:02 PM

Call me an old fart but you should not have guns in such close proximity to alchohol and young people romance drama. I hope nobody takes this as an insult but when you're in college, you're still just a kid. College kids don't need to be armed. The ongoing threat needed to justify that doesn't exist yet.

Hotduck · 09-04-2007, 05:12 AM

Well I think people would brings guns away if they wanted too. If some student is going to bring in a gun their going to bring a gun in weather their allow to or not. J’s idea sounds good too. I just think the whole idea that gun bans stop anyone but good people from having a gun is foolish.

Also where did this idea come form that students are going to start shooting each other over roommate drama and because their drunk. I haven’t to many story about students stabbing or beating to death. What makes us thunk their going to start shooting?

perdidochas · 09-04-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotduck

Yes or No

I say yes my argument is that if a collage student has a permit to carry a gun why not let them? It’s not like someone like the killer at VT would be stopped from bringing a gun in the school because the school doesn’t allow guns but someone might indeed think twice if they know that other people in that school might be able to defend themselves.

I agree. There was another shooting in a Virginia College a few years before the VT massacre. It ended differently, because two law students when they heard the shooting ran out to their cars to get personal firearms. They confronted the shooter and he stopped. Google Apa

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Originally Posted by Hotduck

To me it comes down to this if you think that there are more good people in the world then bad you have no problem with people being armed to protect themselves from the few but extremely deadly bad people in the world. However, to me if you do not trust most people to do the right thing then you would have a big problem with people with a permit carrying a gun to protact themselves.

Also this whole idea of a evil killer being stopped because the school is a NO GUN ZONE is naiveté and in the case of VT deadly.

What do you think?

I agree. Anybody allowed to carry a concealed weapon outside of college should be allowed to carry them on a college campus. Concealed weapon permit holders commit less violent crime than do police officers.