Flagcarrier

In a intersting discussion at school one of my Theachers asked us that if guns should be removed or at least registered.Well like everybody else i thought that guns dont fit in our city slicker society right? especially if you live in the suburbs like me.But he but a intresting point...and i quote as can best remember "Do you guys think that a robber will not shoot a clerk in a 7-11 because he has a registered gun in his hand?" and also he made a good point when a Monarchy feels threatend the head of the monarchy will gather all weapons from the people leaving them vonurable to extrosion which means they are taking slowly our right to defend themselves our course this usually happened in cities where food didnt need to be hunted. So what does this mean to the cities suburbs and small towns today? If they take the right to defend ourselves heads of authority may or is not limited to take advantage of the fact we cant shoot them.In my opinon we cant have that constitutional right taken away for we should have the simple right to defend ourselves

Alun

"Do you guys think that a robber will not shoot a clerk in a 7-11 because he has a registered gun in his hand?"

It'd be harder to get away with it.

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Bradgriff

In Japan citizens don't own guns, and the cops don't carry them on the beat. Thier crime rates are a fraction of the US's. There are also many European countries that don't allow citizens to own weapons, I'd have to double check but there are no European countries with crime rates as high as the US. But then there's Canada....guns coming out of grandma's ass up there, and thier crime rate is a fraction of the US's crime rate. My conclusion...Americans are more violent than any other country, why.....no idea?...so tell your teacher that if they take guns away from society, some junkie is gonna club that 7-11 clerk to death instead.

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Aegis

Too late. The horse is already out of the barn. The US will never forbid or radically restrict the sale and possession of firearms.

perdidochas

To me, the above statement summarizes the argument in a nutshell.

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perdidochas

Please explain.

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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
— Robert Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

perdidochas

However, the price to live in their society is a suicide rate that is higher than our combined murder and suicide rate. Japan is a pressure cooker, homogeneous society that is composed 99.9% of one race and one culture. We can't compare it to our heterogeneous society.

U.S. murder rates are higher than most European countries. U.S. violent crime rates are lower than most European countries. U.S. property crime rates are MUCH lower than most European countries.


Different culture.

We are tame compared to the Mexicans, who despite having a very strict gun ban, have a murder rate of almost 5 times ours. We are extremely tame compare to the Colombians and South Africans, who also have a very strict gun ban, and have a murder rate of almost 20 times ours.

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— Robert Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

perdidochas

Buying a gun (even a semi-automatic) at a gun "convention" (normally called a gun show), is the same as buying a gun elsewhere. The exact same regulations apply. If I buy a gun from a dealer at a gun show, the dealer will do the same NICS background check that he would do if I bought it in his brick and mortar store.

However, you could legally buy a cannon at the time.


The Founding Fathers also had no conception of how quickly the internet and the copying machine could spread information, yet nobody seems to question that freedom of speech should encompass more than just the hand-set printing press and the spoken word.

Please review the concept of guerilla warfare. It has been quite effective against the U.S. military.



Most illegal guns are traced back to the gun dealer that originally sold them, and most were sold in America. Few were sold legally to the criminal using them. Most were either stolen or sold to a friend/relative of the criminal (who illegally transferred them to the criminal). All guns sold since 1968 have a serial number (a bar code is unnecessary).

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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
— Robert Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

Flagcarrier

You named countries ripped by organized crime.. and dont completely follow through in enforcement of their lawswhat does that say about gun control I means they are worthless I still stand that a constitutional refrom is stupid on guns laws guns should be at least registered and some way be reformed so we dont buy 20 clip guns or cannons or naything high powered and still protect out constitutional right

micfranklin

If you want a society where good citizens are defenseless and armed criminals instill fear into everyone because they know no one can fight back, then yeah let's do away with guns.